The last two Preseasons - 0 and 4

The last two regular seasons - both started 0 and 4, fighting back to 7-9

If this season has any look remotely like those seasons, then Payton has to be on the hot seat.

I just don't think management have the balls to admit who the problem really is.

I personally wasn't thrilled that we gave Payton an extension, we haven't had any success in years, I'll gladly take it back if we show up in the regular season but at the minute I'm sceptical to say the least.

However, if the season goes like the last two have or worse, then we need to take a long look at the coaching staff, maybe even clean house.

The only recent addition I'm remotely impressed with is Jeff Ireland as our drafts seem much better.