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ScottF 09-02-2016 07:42 AM

Cuts, Part Deaux
 
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Deadline is tomorrow at 4:00

RB will be interesting. Won't be surprided if we pull the plug on Cadet or Spillar

We still have 5 TE's and 2 FB's

Coleman looks like he might be safe

Didn't see much of Tommy Lee Thursday

Not sure if any of the rookie O-linemen did enough to make the roster

Kicker- was there a clear winner? Money-wise, Forbath makes exactly 45K less than Barth



so, in 48 hours 22 players will be ex-Saints

hagan714 09-02-2016 08:08 AM

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I am watching the OL yet again and still to this day can not figure out what this coaching staff is doing.

playing so many player out of their natural position and jump others all around.

stop screwing around for once

so cuts should be interesting

K Major 09-02-2016 08:10 AM

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For me ...

TommyLee - he's earned a roster spot.
Marcus Murphy - electric in special teams & can change field position on any given return. I'be be surprised if he is cut.
Tull - can't seem to shed blocks well. Cut
Trae Elson - cut ... needs work on tackling in space.
Jack Allen - has has performed poorly last two games. Probable cut or PS.
Spiller - looks way better this year & appears to be completely healthy. Cuts & acceleration reminiscent of his Buffalo playing days.
G Grayson - he simply doesn't do it for me. Not a lot of touch on the ball & I've seen very little progress over two years.

Expect the Saints to make a move @ GUARD after all cuts are announced across the league tomorrow.

As for a kicker? No clue.

dizzle88 09-02-2016 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 715787)
For me ...

TommyLee - he's earned a roster spot.
Marcus Murphy - electric in special teams & can change field position on any given return. I'be be surprised if he is cut.
Tull - can't seem to shed blocks well. Cut
Trae Elson - cut ... needs work on tackling in space.
Jack Allen - has has performed poorly last two games. Probable cut or PS.
Spiller - looks way better this year & appears to be completely healthy. Cuts & acceleration reminiscent of his Buffalo playing days.
G Grayson - he simply doesn't do it for me. Not a lot of touch on the ball & I've seen very little progress over two years.

Expect the Saints to make a move @ GUARD after all cuts are announced across the league tomorrow.

As for a kicker? No clue.

Tommy Lee has to have a roster spot in my opinion, I'd put him above of Brandon Coleman on the depth chart, the guy is shifty and breaks tackles.

Spiller does look much better, he finally looks comfortable on that knee and is running/cutting with purpose.

Tommy Cheeks - showed good speed on the Lambert screen pass, getting out and slowing down the DB.

Could Grayson be a candidate, Payton said in an interview he's not as far along as he should be?

Cruize 09-02-2016 08:26 AM

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QB - Brees, McNown, Grayson
RB - Ingram, Hightower, Spiller, Murphy, Lasco
FB - Kuhn
WR - Cooks, Snead, Thomas, Coleman, TommyLee
TE - Fleener, Hill, Manhertz
OT - Armstead, Strief, Hills
OG - Peat, Lelito, Barnes, Turner
C- Unger
(25)

DE - Jordan, Edbali, Kruger, Gwachum
DT - Fairley, Davison, Jenkins, Rankins, Onyemata
LB - Ellerbe, Laurinaitis, Anthony, Robertson, Stupar, Mauti
CB - Breaux, Williams, Crawley, Finnegan, Dixon
S - Vaccaro, Byrd, Harper, Bell, Harris
(25)

K - Barth
P - Morstead
LS - Drescher

-They're going to keep Grayson. I wouldn't.
-Murphy is the KR. Lasco has special teams skills. I personally would cut Lasco.
-Tommylee is a playmaker. Love the size of Williams-Lambert.
-I think another blocking TE may be aquired and Manhertz let go.
-Hills is solid. Barnes can play any OL spot. Clearly not in shape though. Gave the nod to Turner because he's a true guard with potential. The backups could be fluid with other teams cuts.
-Kept Grawchum for his potential. Richardson just doesn't flash.
-Jenkins has earned a spot.
-Mauti earned a spot.
-Finnegan earned a spot.
-Dixon plays special teams well. Hopefully D. Harris will go to the PS.
-S Harris plays special teams well.
-Harper earned a spot although I could see him and Barnes being cut as to not guarantee their contract fully for 2017.
-I picked Barth due to his experience and consistent career numbers.

Cruize 09-02-2016 08:28 AM

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QB - Brees, McNown, Grayson
RB - Ingram, Hightower, Spiller, Murphy, Lasco
FB - Kuhn
WR - Cooks, Snead, Thomas, Coleman, TommyLee
TE - Fleener, Hill, Manhertz
OT - Armstead, Strief, Hills
OG - Peat, Lelito, Barnes, Turner
C- Unger
(25)

DE - Jordan, Edbali, Kruger, Gwachum
DT - Fairley, Davison, Jenkins, Rankins, Onyemata
LB - Ellerbe, Laurinaitis, Anthony, Robertson, Stupar, Mauti
CB - Breaux, Williams, Crawley, Finnegan, Dixon
S - Vaccaro, Byrd, Harper, Bell, Harris
(25)

K - Barth
P - Morstead
LS - Drescher

-They're going to keep Grayson. I wouldn't.
-Murphy is the KR. Lasco has special teams skills. I personally would cut Lasco.
-Tommylee is a playmaker. Love the size of Williams-Lambert.
-I think another blocking TE may be aquired and Manhertz let go.
-Hills is solid. Barnes can play any OL spot. Clearly not in shape though. Gave the nod to Turner because he's a true guard with potential. The backups could be fluid with other teams cuts.
-Kept Grawchum for his potential. Richardson just doesn't flash.
-Jenkins has earned a spot.
-Mauti earned a spot.
-Finnegan earned a spot.
-Dixon plays special teams well. Hopefully D. Harris will go to the PS.
-S Harris plays special teams well.
-Harper earned a spot although I could see him and Barnes being cut as to not guarantee their contract fully for 2017.
-I picked Barth due to his experience and consistent career numbers.
:bng:

jeanpierre 09-02-2016 08:43 AM

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jeanpierre 09-02-2016 09:08 AM

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I'm still disappointed that Dillon Lee didn't make this team; felt he had outpracticed and outplayed Mike Mauti...

Mauti has the hometown thing and one play working for him, but he's topped out...

But Dillon Lee had several forced turnovers, interceptions and can play all three linebacker spots; we're gonna regret letting him get outta the house...

Another cut that may come that would disappoint me WR Jordan Williams who just hasn't gotten the opportunities...

He had a stupid penalty, but two real nice grabs; he uses his big body naturally, as opposed to Coleman, and just needs reps...

I'd say another pending cut coming is OL Joe Cheek that will really disappoint who played Guard in college, but is a better Tackle...

Cheek really impressed the helloutta me on a kinda WR Bubble screen that looked like a touchdown...

Cheek recognized a pass rusher as off-balance, powerfully put him down with one hand, then hustled in space to the next level to destroy a defensive back and allowed a beautiful YAC run by Jordan Williams who showed impressive acceleration in traffic...

Honorable Mention: John Jenkins has had some tough injuries that's limited his development; really don't believe the guy is lazy; plus, his role has been changed three consecutive years - and that's tough; but I was glad to see him have a nice game...

Unfortunately, he probably put Ashaad Mabry out the door and that's regrettable because Mabry is a real talent that just didn't get the development, coaching he needed in college because of choices to stay home, supporting his family...

xan 09-02-2016 09:20 AM

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cut them all. Hire the whole LSU team.

lee909 09-02-2016 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by xan (Post 715805)
cut them all. Hire the whole LSU team.

Arn't we trying to get better?
[emoji87]

burningmetal 09-02-2016 09:56 AM

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"I'm still disappointed that Dillon Lee didn't make this team; felt he had outpracticed and outplayed Mike Mauti...

Mauti has the hometown thing and one play working for him, but he's topped out...

But Dillon Lee had several forced turnovers, interceptions and can play all three linebacker spots; we're gonna regret letting him get outta the house...

Another cut that may come that would disappoint me WR Jordan Williams who just hasn't gotten the opportunities...

He had a stupid penalty, but two real nice grabs; he uses his big body naturally, as opposed to Coleman, and just needs reps...

I'd say another pending cut coming is OL Joe Cheek that will really disappoint who played Guard in college, but is a better Tackle...

Cheek really impressed the helloutta me on a kinda WR Bubble screen that looked like a touchdown...

Cheek recognized a pass rusher as off-balance, powerfully put him down with one hand, then hustled in space to the next level to destroy a defensive back and allowed a beautiful YAC run by Jordan Williams who showed impressive acceleration in traffic...

Honorable Mention: John Jenkins has had some tough injuries that's limited his development; really don't believe the guy is lazy; plus, his role has been changed three consecutive years - and that's tough; but I was glad to see him have a nice game...

Unfortunately, he probably put Ashaad Mabry out the door and that's regrettable because Mabry is a real talent that just didn't get the development, coaching he needed in college because of choices to stay home, supporting his family..."

That is by Jean Pierre... I'm pasting it because I forgot the quote button.



I fully believe Mabry will be on the practice squad if he isn't claimed.

I don't get your dislike for Mauti, though. He's not a star, but he's a good special teams player who actually has made a lot of plays and showed great energy this preseason. I saw you talking him down last year because he's Rich Mauti's boy and you thought he was on the team only for that reason.

Well... I believe that those things do happen in sports from time to time, but in my opinion Mauti has earned his keep and, respectfully, I think it's time to get off his back about who his dad is and where he's from. I can't think of a single play that I saw Dillon Lee make. I'm not saying he never made one, but he certainly didn't stand out to me, and don't think he deserves to beat out Mauti.

WillMacKenzie 09-02-2016 09:57 AM

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I like TommyLee but he needs to try to catch with his hands, he let a very big play slip right through.

And at least Mauti doesn't look like a zombie out there, he plays with passion.

CheramieIII 09-02-2016 10:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 715787)
For me ...

TommyLee - he's earned a roster spot.
Marcus Murphy - electric in special teams & can change field position on any given return. I'be be surprised if he is cut.
Tull - can't seem to shed blocks well. Cut
Trae Elson - cut ... needs work on tackling in space.
Jack Allen - has has performed poorly last two games. Probable cut or PS.
Spiller - looks way better this year & appears to be completely healthy. Cuts & acceleration reminiscent of his Buffalo playing days.
G Grayson - he simply doesn't do it for me. Not a lot of touch on the ball & I've seen very little progress over two years.

Expect the Saints to make a move @ GUARD after all cuts are announced across the league tomorrow.

As for a kicker? No clue.

Agree with K on everyone and I would add I think Connor gets the job. Well from everything I've read anyway.

dizzle88 09-02-2016 11:39 AM

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It would be interesting to see Tommy Lee Lewis on Kick Returns if he does make the team

Believe he had 4 TD's from kick returns alone in college.

halloween 65 09-02-2016 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 715820)
It would be interesting to see Tommy Lee Lewis on Kick Returns if he does make the team

Believe he had 4 TD's from kick returns alone in college.

I would like to see this also. I feel he's did well enough to earn a spot .

voodooido 09-02-2016 01:27 PM

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Can't understand why anyone wants to keep Murphy. The dude is trash. We have 5 players on our team now that are just as good if not better returning the ball. Lasco is a ace on ST and ran with passion. I would keep Grayson and try and trade McCown to the Vikes. Is Grayson ready? Not a chance but with suck with Brees so we won't win a game with Grayson or MCCown. If we could get a rd 5 for a 90 yr old backup qb I say it's a win.

Beastmode 09-02-2016 02:13 PM

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Murphy is versatile. He's no Sproles but those type of players are hard to find. Not really great at anything but decent at a few positions and maybe great now and then.

K Major 09-02-2016 02:16 PM

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Calling Murphy "trash" is a bit short sighted.

lee909 09-02-2016 02:22 PM

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Murphy is far better than Cadet imo. So long as them handling issues were just a poor couple of weeks he is the better option imo

spkb25 09-02-2016 03:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 715784)
Deadline is tomorrow at 4:00

RB will be interesting. Won't be surprided if we pull the plug on Cadet or Spillar

We still have 5 TE's and 2 FB's

Coleman looks like he might be safe

Didn't see much of Tommy Lee Thursday

Not sure if any of the rookie O-linemen did enough to make the roster

Kicker- was there a clear winner? Money-wise, Forbath makes exactly 45K less than Barth



so, in 48 hours 22 players will be ex-Saints

CJ has looked the best of all of our rb's this preseason

CharityMike 09-02-2016 04:43 PM

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If it was down to Murphy or Cadet, I would go Murphy. Never been a fan of Cadet. There is no way we don't keep Lasco. As stated, he made this team because of his ST play.

frydaddy 09-02-2016 04:47 PM

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I just don't see us keeping 4 RB's, unless we don't keep any FB's. Cadet is gone for sure, that still leaves one guy who has to go. Each of them made their case last night as to why they should stay... it's gonna be a tough decision.

Beastmode 09-02-2016 05:17 PM

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Murphy is staying. I'm starting him on my FF team. I'm a clairvoyant though I am wrong sometimes.

The Dude 09-02-2016 06:56 PM

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Spiller ain't goin anywhere. If you think otherwise you are a moron. And no, not even trade bait.

lee909 09-02-2016 07:03 PM

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Not this year he's not
Not as sure next year,the contracts much more cutable then

Rell&Gold 09-02-2016 08:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 715866)
Calling Murphy "trash" is a bit short sighted.

And that might b putting it lightly, but agreed

Rell&Gold 09-02-2016 08:34 PM

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Something is telling me wont get a full season from Ingram, hes been running 'different" this preseason

lee909 09-02-2016 08:51 PM

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Ingram has only played a full season once. Between them Spiller and Ingram have 3 16 games seasons in 11 years. I think its fair to say we wont get 16 games

SmashMouth 09-02-2016 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 715896)
CJ has looked the best of all of our rb's this preseason

It's about time he did.

SaintsBro 09-02-2016 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 715852)
we won't win a game with Grayson or MCCown. If we could get a rd 5 for a 90 yr old backup qb I say it's a win.

I dunno -- you say we won't win a game with McCown, but McCown came within one underthrown ball of beating Carolina in Carolina last year, a team that eventually went on to 15-1. He threw for 300+ yards against the #6 ranked defense. Yeah he's no Drew Brees, but McCown is actually probably a much better shot to actually win a game if he's running with the 1's, than Grayson is out there.

saintshrimp 09-02-2016 09:39 PM

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Could get rid of both Murray and cadet if they wanted wouldn't be a big loss. I'd rather have Spiller returning kicks or have them bring in Dexter mcCluster to-do it . Murray and cadet hasn't showed me anything really that warrant a spot.

vpheughan 09-03-2016 07:44 AM

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Je ne peux pas attendre pour le troisième tour !

SmashMouth 09-03-2016 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 715984)
Je ne peux pas attendre pour le troisième tour !

Pourquoi? :bng:

vpheughan 09-03-2016 08:08 AM

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Vous parlez français , vous savez!

SmashMouth 09-03-2016 08:42 AM

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Handicapping three of the Saints' more difficult roster decisions: Running back, cornerback and wide receiver | Saints | theadvocate.com

halloween 65 09-03-2016 10:11 AM

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Panthers just cut a CB that I'm hoping we take a look at. Sanchez.

The Dude 09-03-2016 11:20 AM

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Seeing as Breaux is the only corner who has played a snap in a real NFL game I would imagine all of the CBs can be replaceable

CheramieIII 09-03-2016 11:26 AM

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We need a serviceable CB and maybe a couple OL. As long as they can play and not screw stuff up they we should be OK and Drew shouldn't get killed this year. I think the fact the we so dramatically improved the pass rush with those DL and LB's it will take some of the pressure off the secondary fo sho!

ChrisXVI 09-03-2016 03:06 PM

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Cuts so far...

Davis Tull
Austin Johnson
Tony Hills
Tyrus Thompson
Khalif Barnes
Chris McCain
Garrett Griffin

ChrisXVI 09-03-2016 03:14 PM

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No surprise there.


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