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LKelley67 03-09-2005 10:51 AM

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Join jaguars.com senior editor Vic Ketchman as he tackles the fans' tough questions.

Justin from Jacksonville: Any realistic chance the Jags could deal Darius to the Saints for Darren Howard? If that came to fruition, how would you grade the move?
Vic: That would make no sense at all. Have you considered how much money you would have tied up on the defensive line? Have you considered that two of those players, Marcus Stroud and Darren Howard, would be on one-year contracts? It's not just about getting the best personnel. It's about making it work on your salary cap. Haven't we learned that, yet, from New England? Acquiring Howard would represent a salary cap and contract disaster.

RDOX 03-09-2005 10:55 AM

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[quote:317799a8c9]jaguars.com-

Join jaguars.com senior editor Vic Ketchman as he tackles the fans\' tough questions.

Justin from Jacksonville: Any realistic chance the Jags could deal Darius to the Saints for Darren Howard? If that came to fruition, how would you grade the move?
Vic: That would make no sense at all. Have you considered how much money you would have tied up on the defensive line? Have you considered that two of those players, Marcus Stroud and Darren Howard, would be on one-year contracts? It\'s not just about getting the best personnel. It\'s about making it work on your salary cap. Haven\'t we learned that, yet, from New England? Acquiring Howard would represent a salary cap and contract disaster. [/quote]

Man!! That\'s strong. Sounds like Howard is here to stay. Hope he stays well this year.

LKelley67 03-09-2005 10:59 AM

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just a talking head there but strong indeed.

saintswhodi 03-09-2005 11:00 AM

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Yeah but that\'s just for Jacksonville, who already signed Hayward(top FA DE) and have Stround and Henderson. It makes NO SENSE for THEM to do it, but there may be other teams who can use Howard, like Cleveland, or San Fran.

WhoDat 03-09-2005 11:09 AM

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Howard\'s staying... and I\'m happy to see it. You will be too, just wait and see. :)

saintswhodi 03-09-2005 11:12 AM

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No way Howard stays. If a team meets our demand, he is gone. I would be happy if he stayed but I ain\'t happy with his salary, and I ain\'t happy that Charles Grant will be commanding the same if not more in a year or two either. I am happy Howard has shown enough that he might be able to get us a decent LB in return though.

RDOX 03-09-2005 11:18 AM

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No way Howard stays. If a team meets our demand, he is gone. I would be happy if he stayed but I ain\'t happy with his salary, and I ain\'t happy that Charles Grant will be commanding the same if not more in a year or two either. I am happy Howard has shown enough that he might be able to get us a decent LB in return though.
You know if you and WhoDat were more positive you\'d see that we REALLY NEED Howard to stay. He could double up and be a wide receiver and replace Pathon. Then he could also try to be an H back and even kick field goals. The problem is that you are just not POSITIVE enough about the Saints. I, on the other hand, love the Saints. They can make no mistakes. AB is the savior and I know that I said that he was an idiot in other posts, but really I have rethought the whole thing and see that I was really not being positive and correct, so I\'m reversing myself and telling everyone that 8-8 is super since all of the players had \"great stats\" and showed improvement in the last 4 games so we have a great chance to go 8-8 again and that makes me happy and positive. So THERE!!!

saintswhodi 03-09-2005 11:21 AM

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Okay RDOX, I don\'t know what that post was in retaliation to, but I got a laugh out of it. :roll:

LordOfEntropy 03-09-2005 11:26 AM

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A \'born again\' Saints fan.

LOL

RDOX 03-09-2005 11:45 AM

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Okay RDOX, I don\'t know what that post was in retaliation to, but I got a laugh out of it. :roll:
That\'s why I posted it. I\'m trying to get into the spirit and be \"more positive\" and not be a \"postal Hater.\" But I figured that it\'d make you laugh. Have a great day. :fanclub:

GoldenTomb 03-09-2005 12:41 PM

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I think the Jags situation with Howard was exhausted when they signed Heyward. I would hope that the team still plans to deal Howard. I would even take a low ball offer for him(3rd round or lower). I just think that the incremental benefit for having him here is not worth the salary that he would recieve. In other words, his overall contribution would not justify his salary. Sure the D would definitely be better with him and Will Smith in the lineup, but we could use that money on developing rookies who will be with the team past 2005.

Euphoria 03-09-2005 05:36 PM

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The reality of it all... is that Howard stays or we get raped. Saints won\'t get much for him at this point and no one really needs A DE. He has been very productive but not a key player who has help our D overall. We shouldn\'t have got into this contract situation, we need to get him a long term contract. Keeping him actually does us more good than not.

PS You love the Saints so much... have they ever loved ya back?

saintswhodi 03-09-2005 06:53 PM

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no one really needs A DE.
Wow. Seriously? Did they go out of style or something? I can name at least 10 teams that could strongly use a DE.

LKelley67 03-09-2005 07:52 PM

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probably at least 4 de\'s drafted in the first round. must not be for need.

saintswhodi 03-09-2005 08:52 PM

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Maybe some GMs just think they are dreamy. ;)

spkb25 03-09-2005 10:01 PM

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i thought DE was one of the most needed positions in the league. guess im wrong. i saw i think on espn.com that there was at least one NFC team in talks with us. and that our asking price was a second round pick. well that would eliminate the jags because they arent an nfc team anyway. as of now i think we are in good shape with the guy. we can trade him if someone wants him or we can keep him and he plays for us and produces as much as he can because he is a free agent next year again. i like keeping him or trading him for a draft pick. in my opin. we cant loose

Danno 03-10-2005 06:27 AM

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Darren Howard’s name has once again popped up this week, involved in several different trade rumors. Howard has been rumored to be the center of attention for several teams in the NFL that covet a strong defensive end to anchor their line.
As far as the Darren Howard situation goes, all my sources are reporting that a handful of teams are still inquiring about him, with a few solid offers. Don’t expect the Saints to deal him simply to get rid of him, but if the right offer comes along, then sources are reporting that he is available.
Jarrod Breaux


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