Saints great Rickey Jackson doubtful defense will be any better this season

09-11-2016, 10:27 AM

Our front 7 has been easily upgraded

They may not be better straight away, but I believe the young guys like PJ Williams will grow into the position.

I just hope that a game plan has been put in place where PJ isn't left alone on an island, they will challenge him and it would help him immensely to have safety help over the top just until he gets comfortable.

jeanpierre · 09-11-2016, 10:37 AM

Here's the thing about the preseason games vs today...

The Saints coaches will be game planning for the Raiders vs Preseason Opponents where players were put in situations to see how they'll respond...

spkb25 · 09-11-2016, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Here's the thing about the preseason games vs today...

The Saints coaches will be game planning for the Raiders vs Preseason Opponents where players were put in situations to see how they'll respond...

Then explain the dominance in 2009?

K Major · 09-11-2016, 04:46 PM

I guess Rickey Jackson does know what he is talking about after all.

Defense is still a problem in New Orleans.

nola_swammi · 09-11-2016, 04:51 PM

The refs stole this game, but we do need some kind of pass rush

halloween 65 · 09-11-2016, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I guess Rickey Jackson does know what he is talking about after all.

Defense is still a problem in New Orleans.

A defensive mentallity left New Orleans a long time ago and hasn't returned since. A great D feeds off of each other like clockwork, I know you know how it goes but people see a high powered O scoring a bunch of points which is a good thing but it's really just half of the equation without the other half doing their job it's all in vein. I blame alot of this on Payton thinking all he needs is a few stops in a game to win. I think he probably thinks his O is superior to every D they face and if this is the case it's certainly not shown over alot of seasons. I truely think if we could have fielded a true top 15 D since he's been here people would be talking dynasty and a few more banners would be hanging in the dome.

darstep · 09-11-2016, 11:04 PM

I think Payton has been contracting out the defense to people who have
spent most of their days scheming and implementing defenses.
He's had some trouble finding a contractor who is as good as he is.
The other problem is Payton's offense has 75% of the budget(+or- 2-3%).
If we ever get back to middle of the pack on defense, we will be back in the mix.
The 60/40 pass/rush mix doesn't help either.
Defense can't even hydrate before being back on the field again.
The talk about balance on offense just has not materialized.
And I've been waiting a longggggggg time.

QBREES9 · 09-11-2016, 11:06 PM

Thay are all ready better then last year.

blackangold · 09-11-2016, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

Thay are all ready better then last year.

What makes you believe that?

WillSaints81 · 09-11-2016, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by darstep

I think Payton has been contracting out the defense to people who have
spent most of their days scheming and implementing defenses.
He's had some trouble finding a contractor who is as good as he is.
The other problem is Payton's offense has 75% of the budget(+or- 2-3%).
If we ever get back to middle of the pack on defense, we will be back in the mix.
The 60/40 pass/rush mix doesn't help either.
Defense can't even hydrate before being back on the field again.
The talk about balance on offense just has not materialized.
And I've been waiting a longggggggg time.

We had a oline, no excuse for not running the ball. But we don't let Ingram carry this team late. I will say that ever since PT left SP just does not rely on one back enough.

09-11-2016, 10:27 AM	#11
Threaded by dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,548 Rating: (0 votes - average) Our front 7 has been easily upgraded They may not be better straight away, but I believe the young guys like PJ Williams will grow into the position. I just hope that a game plan has been put in place where PJ isn't left alone on an island, they will challenge him and it would help him immensely to have safety help over the top just until he gets comfortable.
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09-11-2016, 10:37 AM	#12
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints great Rickey Jackson doubtful defense will be any better this season Here's the thing about the preseason games vs today... The Saints coaches will be game planning for the Raiders vs Preseason Opponents where players were put in situations to see how they'll respond...

09-11-2016, 11:19 AM	#13
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Saints great Rickey Jackson doubtful defense will be any better this season Originally Posted by jeanpierre Here's the thing about the preseason games vs today... The Saints coaches will be game planning for the Raiders vs Preseason Opponents where players were put in situations to see how they'll respond... Then explain the dominance in 2009?

09-11-2016, 04:46 PM	#14
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,854 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints great Rickey Jackson doubtful defense will be any better this season I guess Rickey Jackson does know what he is talking about after all. Defense is still a problem in New Orleans. Ashley and halloween 65 like this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints great Rickey Jackson doubtful defense will be any better this season Originally Posted by K Major I guess Rickey Jackson does know what he is talking about after all. Defense is still a problem in New Orleans. A defensive mentallity left New Orleans a long time ago and hasn't returned since. A great D feeds off of each other like clockwork, I know you know how it goes but people see a high powered O scoring a bunch of points which is a good thing but it's really just half of the equation without the other half doing their job it's all in vein. I blame alot of this on Payton thinking all he needs is a few stops in a game to win. I think he probably thinks his O is superior to every D they face and if this is the case it's certainly not shown over alot of seasons. I truely think if we could have fielded a true top 15 D since he's been here people would be talking dynasty and a few more banners would be hanging in the dome. darstep and Rugby Saint II like this.

09-11-2016, 11:04 PM	#17
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Saints great Rickey Jackson doubtful defense will be any better this season I think Payton has been contracting out the defense to people who have spent most of their days scheming and implementing defenses. He's had some trouble finding a contractor who is as good as he is. The other problem is Payton's offense has 75% of the budget(+or- 2-3%). If we ever get back to middle of the pack on defense, we will be back in the mix. The 60/40 pass/rush mix doesn't help either. Defense can't even hydrate before being back on the field again. The talk about balance on offense just has not materialized. And I've been waiting a longggggggg time.
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09-11-2016, 11:06 PM	#18
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: Saints great Rickey Jackson doubtful defense will be any better this season Thay are all ready better then last year.

09-11-2016, 11:32 PM	#19
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints great Rickey Jackson doubtful defense will be any better this season Originally Posted by QBREES9 Thay are all ready better then last year. What makes you believe that?

09-11-2016, 11:34 PM	#20
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,285	Re: Saints great Rickey Jackson doubtful defense will be any better this season Originally Posted by darstep I think Payton has been contracting out the defense to people who have spent most of their days scheming and implementing defenses. He's had some trouble finding a contractor who is as good as he is. The other problem is Payton's offense has 75% of the budget(+or- 2-3%). If we ever get back to middle of the pack on defense, we will be back in the mix. The 60/40 pass/rush mix doesn't help either. Defense can't even hydrate before being back on the field again. The talk about balance on offense just has not materialized. And I've been waiting a longggggggg time. We had a oline, no excuse for not running the ball. But we don't let Ingram carry this team late. I will say that ever since PT left SP just does not rely on one back enough.

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