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s2kguy 09-14-2016 08:30 AM

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Does anyone think it's funny (sarcasm) that Evans is counting for over $5 million of dead money and he is on our active roster

neugey 09-14-2016 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by s2kguy (Post 719241)
Does anyone think it's funny (sarcasm) that Evans is counting for over $5 million of dead money and he is on our active roster

Yes he is like a salary cap zombie!

SapperSaint 09-14-2016 08:49 AM

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Dead Money (Dept for services not rendered) is going to be the down fall of this franchise. 40 million.... FORTY MILLION! Maybe Loomis isn't the genius we think he is. Why does our O&D lines suck? Why does our ENTIRE Defense suck? Because we can't afford the good players. I'm sorry, but having one great/good player (Drew Bre$$) isn't going to win jack squat! I'm not dooming and glooming about the season after one game, but this team is getting worse and worse every year. It is getting hard to watch this team play. It feels like we are filling roster spots with "Well, he won't cost us much" type of players.

jonnyrotten 09-14-2016 10:21 AM

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Finally everyone is awake on this issue! I welcome you all with open arms... ;)

ChrisXVI 09-14-2016 10:56 AM

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25%... 25% of our cap space is dead money. Man that's hard to wrap my head around. What kind of a way to do business is this?

saintshrimp 09-14-2016 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 719270)
25%... 25% of our cap space is dead money. Man that's hard to wrap my head around. What kind of a way to do business is this?

In what business do you not get fired of it. Its one were the very top guy is not of sound mind thats where.

AsylumGuido 09-14-2016 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 719233)
Or locked up Josh Norman.

Once again, cap space did NOT play a factor in not signing Norman at all. Saints had tons of cap space available with a deal Brees was ready to do at the time.

saintshrimp 09-14-2016 11:31 AM

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You know where it started going wrong.It started in 2012.What happened in 2012?Mickey became head of operations of the New Orleans Pelicans There's no way one man could run two franchises they both suffer as we have been seeing. It'd hard enough running one team. Until that changes both teams are going to suffer.

AsylumGuido 09-14-2016 11:34 AM

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Everyone please take the time and read this so I don't have to continue to repeat. $37 million in dead money in the current year means nothing. The Saints have over $9 million in 2016 cap space. The dead money isn't keeping the team from signing anyone. The fact is that there is no one to sign.

Dead money means even less next year where the total dead money figure stands at a paltry $7.8 million and with the usual converted roster bonuses and 2016 unused cap carry-over, coupled with the next Brees extension and a Cam Jordan restructure will leave the Saints with $55 million in free cap space.

Those are REAL FACTS.

AsylumGuido 09-14-2016 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 719278)
You know where it started going wrong.It started in 2012.What happened in 2012?Mickey became head of operations of the New Orleans Pelicans There's no way one man could run two franchises they both suffer as we have been seeing. It'd hard enough running one team. Until that changes both teams are going to suffer.

It doesn't matter when "it" went wrong because "it" is in the past. Dead money and cap in general is no longer an issue going forward. These media dolts that keeps spouting off about it don't have a clue how it works.


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