C.J. Spiller Released - Mistake or Necessity?
 

Yesterday the Saints released running back C.J. Spiller. Spiller was also inactive for the Saints vs. Raiders game as a last minute move. Coach Sean Payton had a lot of positives to say about Spiller during camp. Was this another front office error playing into more zombie money for the Saints? Or was this necessary because Spiller hasn't been able to complete a season healthy?

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Mistake in my opinion.

In preseason CJ finally looked healthy, 2 mistakes have been made here;

Giving him a 16 Mil contract when he's injured
Cutting him the minute he finally looks healthy

I mean come on, Cadet is awful. I don't understand how he continually gets a roster spot.

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FWIW, Mike Florio radio show (PFT) claims CJ still didn't know the playbook. Multiple times Brees would have to turn over at CJ to make sure he understood the assignment.

Cadet may be limited in terms of ability, however he understands the offense, Brees and Sean's playbook.

Take it for what it's worth.

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Dont see why you couldnt keep him to return kicks may as well get something for the money you spent. Its cost you money ti cut him now anyway may as well get something for it i would think

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Cutting him may be pure genius.

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If that really is the case which does sound plausible, then SP should have known this before giving him the exact same contract as Ingram.

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Maybe Spiller just didn't get into the mix in New Orleans. He still may be very athletic but it just never sunk in. Our offense is very different than Buffalo. Sometimes you go to a new place and it doesn't sink in. Coach Peyton doesn't want to hurt his career hoping he catches on elsewhere.

That said, our contracts should account for something like this happening. We need more shrewd business dealings.

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It's a waste.

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This doesn't pass the smell test to me.

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If Spiller didn't know the playbook then it was the absolute correct decision to release him. I honestly like Mark Ingram as a receiver and think he has the ability to be what Pierre Thomas was.

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I'd support the decision if we do the same thing on the other side of the ball and release Byrd...

Then is truly shows the front office is consistent...

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I would suspect that has much more to do with depth at the position. The Saints still have 4 more tailbacks after Spiller was released but if they released Byrd now, they'd only have 1 free safety on the roster. Also, Byrd's dead money hit this year would be $17 million but drops to $8mil next year.

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I agree with your first position, although dead money in the current period has no factor in the decision since that money is already spent.

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Murphy can fill that roll easily. Hope to start seeing more of him and less of Cadet.

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I don't understand all the cadet hate. He's no Sproles but he performed admirably last year when Ingram went down. Good special teams player. A lot of bang for the buck.

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I wonder who's on the trade block around the league.

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Meh, he could do more, I find myself underwhelmed by him every year.

Remember week 17 last year vs Falcons, he fumbled on the 2 yard line right into the endzone, that would have put the game away, luckily our defense got an interception anyway.

Last week, dropping 2 straight passes on an important drive.

I just don't know, yeah he knows the offense but if he's really that smart I'd expect to see something in his play and he rarely shows anything.

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CJ was running like a wuss. Showed some speed and talent is still there; he's just running like a 'fraidy cat.

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Hadn't seen anything but as you already know, that could change at any given moment.

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THAT being said, unless we NEED the roster space, or he was a locker room cancer - I would have tried him in the regular season... maybe it would have sparked his competitive desire.

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We had 4 fit cornerbacks and needed the space as Breaux cannot go to IR if Rankins is wanted back. Had to be done,would have been done after the season and may aswell eat the dead money ow and start fresh.

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Mistake? waste of money sure but i said that the day we signed him.
Necessity? negative effect on cap makes this kind of silly.

lets see what shakes out of this.

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We took on an injured player
We gave him guaranteed money
We gained minimal from him as he was injured
We allowed him to get healthy
Then we sent him out into free agency with no return on our investment

Great job Mickey and Sean.....

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I would of released Laurinaitis before Spiller. He is like tits on bull.

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There should have been an option for both. It was a mistake to sign him and it was a necessity to cut him. It was a cluster **** to guarantee so much to an injured player.

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I may be wrong in this thinking but I truly believe we tried to trade him. The problem is I don't think anyone wanted to take over that salary. I would think no matter the round draft pick he should have warranted, that the salary had to be the reason.

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According to Sean we did try, but we had to make roster moves and had to cut bait in a hurry. It is what it is. Onward and Upward. If it were me I'd try and trade for a solid (read 'starting') corner.

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Hell he could've returned punts and kickoffs and done very well. I would've renegotiated his contract if that's all he did for sure

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Necessity; Injuries have put the defense in a bad spot... He hasn't shown much of anything, why keep him around waiting for something to happen...

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I'd share my opinion but none of you want to hear it....you know why?! Because you hate me! You all hate me!!! I'm just a big loser to you all!!!! Why God? Why?!!!!!!

Aaaaagggghhhh!!!!

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He must do a better job at the MIKE position. Oakland really gave him the business.

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The whole defense was hold up well till Breaux went down.


With Breaux in the side, the Saints gave up 255 total yards and 10 points in the first 39 1/2 minutes. Without him in the final 20 1/2 minutes, they allowed 231 yards and 25 points, capped by a two-point conversion to Michael Crabtree.

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Hey! You're just quoting your own article!!!

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You can't plagiarize yourself

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6 running backs. DBs dropping like flies... What was our other option???

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CJ is also not a young man and also prone to breaking. Maybe the reasoning is odds are he will go down out of all the RBs and we need the spot. And it looks like we will be getting involved in some serious air battles this season so likely more CB issues.

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I think they should have let him be the return man. One of many screw up's by Payton and Loomis. When are they going to be held accountable for all the bad choices they have made. There should be outrage on this site and every other site for the bad choices this management team has made an how they have decimated this roster and not prepared for the future.

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I still don't see how Murphy or Cadet are a better option in KR/PR & scat back than CJ. Can someone convince me please?And spare me the injury talk since All RBs get injured under this org.

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uhm his last game we could have started any high school player in the state and did just as good.

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The problem is that CJ was a role player that we have always had if it wasn't Bush, it was Sproles... Cutting CJ we have no one that fits that role of a 3rd down back out of the backfield.

On the other hand we don't have a history letting players take up a roster spot if they are injured all the time. I don't know if they do that as a favor to the player because if you are injured all the time maybe the game is not for you or the game has past you...