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burningmetal 09-18-2016 05:53 PM

Re: Game Day: New Orleans Saints @ New York G'nats
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 720220)
Look back. I said earlier in this thread that they made a mistake in signing him. The point I was arguing was that it wasn't a mistake to cut him when Breaux got injured. And Spiller never put up big yards in the passing game. He had somewhere around 460 yards once and never more than 269 in any other season.

Spiller played in an awful offense that failed to use him properly after that breakout season, and he also missed time with some injuries.

I distinctly remember in that big year he had, that he didn't become fully integrated until the second half of the year. He had a phenomenal second half.

The thought was that he would come here, be used properly, and be a star. But instead they just cut him loose in favor of other guys who have done next to nothing.

And as for you saying they made a mistake, I know you did. And I'm saying that I thought we weren't allowed to say such things. If I say it, you'll come behind me and say "well maybe you should run the team". As if I can't see something obvious with my own eyes. But I see that it's cool as long as you are calling it a mistake.

AsylumGuido 09-18-2016 05:53 PM

Re: Game Day: New Orleans Saints @ New York G'nats
 
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Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 720224)
Yeah he is far more talented

But not as talented as Ingram and Hightower in the coach's eyes and cannot contribute in the special teams game. That is what spelled his doom.

lee909 09-18-2016 05:53 PM

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Whats the myth about Spiller looking Fanta in preseason. He averaged 4.2 yards per carry. Less than the 4.5ypc Ingram has managed over his career
He had one good 12 yard run take that away and its 9 runs for 30 yards 3.3ypc.

He had 7 receptions for 25 yards
Break it down he had 3 receptions for 24 yards and 4 receptions for 1 yard. Against the Steelers he had 3 reception and averaged -0.3 yards

He was done. He should never have been given a contract to start with. He was injury prone and the league knew it and wete not touching him. So we jumped and offered him a overpayed deal. Much like the Fleener deal. Everyone in the league knew the man drops balls often. Its like they just looked at the box score and though 'oh look at them numbers,imagine him with Drew'

Oh and im still p***ed with the refs for handing the game to yhe Giants. You dont make them calls in the last 2 minutes of a game.

burningmetal 09-18-2016 05:54 PM

Re: Game Day: New Orleans Saints @ New York G'nats
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 720229)
Yes, he was one of two main backs. The Saints had Ingram, Hightower and Khiry Robinson last season.

Cadet has been around for a few years now. He has had his chances, and done nothing with them. Don't be ridiculous.

dizzle88 09-18-2016 05:56 PM

Re: Game Day: New Orleans Saints @ New York G'nats
 
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 720234)
Whats the myth about Spiller looking Fanta in preseason. He averaged 4.2 yards per carry. Less than the 4.5ypc Ingram has managed over his career
He had one good 12 yard run take that away and its 9 runs for 30 yards 3.3ypc.

He had 7 receptions for 25 yards
Break it down he had 3 receptions for 24 yards and 4 receptions for 1 yard. Against the Steelers he had 3 reception and averaged -0.3 yards

He was done. He should never have been given a contract to start with. He was injury prone and the league knew it and wete not touching him. So we jumped and offered him a overpayed deal. Much like the Fleener deal. Everyone in the league knew the man drops balls often. Its like they just looked at the box score and though 'oh look at them numbers,imagine him with Drew'

Oh and im still p***ed with the refs for handing the game to yhe Giants. You dont make them calls in the last 2 minutes of a game.

The game shouldn't have been that close in the first place, we recorded 0 points from 3 takeaways, 1 of them at the Giants 25 yard line.

We made the mistake of letting the Refs dictate the end of the game because we didnt put it away when we had the chance.

spkb25 09-18-2016 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 720211)
I agree. But at least he can also play special teams where Spiller couldn't.

spiller returned

K Major 09-18-2016 05:56 PM

Re: Game Day: New Orleans Saints @ New York G'nats
 
What's the deal with Stephone Anthony? I swear I didn't see him on the field today.

AsylumGuido 09-18-2016 05:57 PM

Re: Game Day: New Orleans Saints @ New York G'nats
 
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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 720231)
Spiller played in an awful offense that failed to use him properly after that breakout season, and he also missed time with some injuries.

I distinctly remember in that big year he had, that he didn't become fully integrated until the second half of the year. He had a phenomenal second half.

The thought was that he would come here, be used properly, and be a star. But instead they just cut him loose in favor of other guys who have done next to nothing.

And as for you saying they made a mistake, I know you did. And I'm saying that I thought we weren't allowed to say such things. If I say it, you'll come behind me and say "well maybe you should run the team". As if I can't see something obvious with my own eyes. But I see that it's cool as long as you are calling it a mistake.

The difference is that I don't chastise them for making a mistake. Every franchise makes mistakes. In many cases they are unavoidable. I criticize those that put all the blame on the front office as if they could have foreseen mistakes. That is my point.

ChrisXVI 09-18-2016 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 720240)
What's the deal with Stephone Anthony? I swear I didn't see him on the field today.

Wish I knew. We would have some fantastic athleticism out there at LB if Craig Robertson and Stephone Anthony could be on the field together.

AsylumGuido 09-18-2016 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 720239)
spiller returned

He had seven KO returns last year, noi punt returns. They hoped he could produce there but his long was only 26 yards. Cadet averaged 31 yards per return and Murphy averaged 25 on 12 returns.


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