Game Day: New Orleans Saints @ New York G'nats

lee909 · 09-18-2016, 06:02 PM

Getting rid of Spiller was right. Having Cadet on the roster as anything but a backup was a mistake.

My opinion and thats all it is we need a everydown/everything back.

Ingram does a good job but he is never going to hit that homerun to spring a game wide open. And going back to the old 2011 type RB committee was exposed in the long term.

Teams knew

Ingram on the field = stack the box

Sproles on the field = passing

PT on the field = who knows

Look at the ladt year of Sproles and how often a LB woild be on him before he could break free. With the new era LB being lighter and faster it will not work if teams know whats coming.

We need a RB that can keep teams on edge and teams know if they blitz and miss him he is going 60+ yards.

I know they do not grow on trees but you can find them in the mid rounds of the draft

dizzle88 · 09-18-2016, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Getting rid of Spiller was right. Having Cadet on the roster as anything but a backup was a mistake.

My opinion and thats all it is we need a everydown/everything back.

Ingram does a good job but he is never going to hit that homerun to spring a game wide open. And going back to the old 2011 type RB committee was exposed in the long term.

Teams knew

Ingram on the field = stack the box

Sproles on the field = passing

PT on the field = who knows

Look at the ladt year of Sproles and how often a LB woild be on him before he could break free. With the new era LB being lighter and faster it will not work if teams know whats coming.

We need a RB that can keep teams on edge and teams know if they blitz and miss him he is going 60+ yards.

I know they do not grow on trees but you can find them in the mid rounds of the draft

Literally an Adrian Peterson, Todd Gurley type running back.

We need to commit to the run first, those guys would waste away in our offense.

saintshrimp · 09-18-2016, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Literally an Adrian Peterson, Todd Gurley type running back.

We need to commit to the run first, those guys would waste away in our offense.

In order to do. That your going to have to fire Sean Payton and rebuild the line because it's a pass blocking line don't think it was ever designed to run the ball in the first place.Sean doesn't believe in running the ball period it don't matter who you have at running back.

dizzle88 · 09-18-2016, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

In order to do. That your going to have to fire Sean Payton and rebuild the line because it's a pass blocking line don't think it was ever designed to run the ball in the first place.Sean doesn't believe in running the ball period it don't matter who you have at running back.

I'm in favour of getting rid of Sean Payton, three straight years starting 0-2, two straight 7-9 seasons, multiple players getting injured every season, offering huge contracts to lackluster players...the list goes on.

Payton does a favour and keeps his friends around, he is surrounded by "Yes Men"

Vitt, Dennis Allen, McMahon, whoever the strength and conditioning coach is and Bill Johnson

Every year we get lackluster play and every year Payton brushes it under the carpet

If we lose the next two weeks, the ENTIRE staff need to be evaluated.

saintshrimp · 09-18-2016, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I'm in favour of getting rid of Sean Payton, three straight years starting 0-2, two straight 7-9 seasons, multiple players getting injured every season, offering huge contracts to lackluster players...the list goes on.

Payton does a favour and keeps his friends around, he is surrounded by "Yes Men"

Vitt, Dennis Allen, McMahon, whoever the strength and conditioning coach is and Bill Johnson

Every year we get lackluster play and every year Payton brushes it under the carpet

If we lose the next two weeks, the ENTIRE staff need to be evaluated.

Amen with you 100 percent I'd include Mickey and everyone else in the building too

AllSaints · 09-18-2016, 06:11 PM

If Cadet and Coleman can not suit up anymore games that'd be great....

lee909 · 09-18-2016, 06:12 PM

It doesn't have to be somebody so high profile. Bell and Lacey were second round picks.
Obviously his injuries count him out but Andre Ellington could do both out the backfield. Pierre Thomas

If they can carry 170-200 times a year and add 30-50 receptions you can spot fill the rest

K Major · 09-18-2016, 06:14 PM

I sure wish we had another vet at WR in Brandon Coleman's spot. He is not a very good receiver in my opinion.

saintshrimp · 09-18-2016, 06:15 PM

To me the only reason we run the ball is to give the Wrs a chance to catch their breath we really don't intend to gain much from it

lee909 · 09-18-2016, 06:15 PM

Wouldn't be shocked if he is out on his backside this week for someone on tbe street.

Is Hartline still a FA
Dont fancy Randle but can be much worse

09-18-2016, 06:02 PM	#1
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Game Day: New Orleans Saints @ New York G'nats Getting rid of Spiller was right. Having Cadet on the roster as anything but a backup was a mistake. My opinion and thats all it is we need a everydown/everything back. Ingram does a good job but he is never going to hit that homerun to spring a game wide open. And going back to the old 2011 type RB committee was exposed in the long term. Teams knew Ingram on the field = stack the box Sproles on the field = passing PT on the field = who knows Look at the ladt year of Sproles and how often a LB woild be on him before he could break free. With the new era LB being lighter and faster it will not work if teams know whats coming. We need a RB that can keep teams on edge and teams know if they blitz and miss him he is going 60+ yards. I know they do not grow on trees but you can find them in the mid rounds of the draft
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09-18-2016, 06:05 PM	#2
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Re: Game Day: New Orleans Saints @ New York G'nats Originally Posted by lee909 Getting rid of Spiller was right. Having Cadet on the roster as anything but a backup was a mistake. My opinion and thats all it is we need a everydown/everything back. Ingram does a good job but he is never going to hit that homerun to spring a game wide open. And going back to the old 2011 type RB committee was exposed in the long term. Teams knew Ingram on the field = stack the box Sproles on the field = passing PT on the field = who knows Look at the ladt year of Sproles and how often a LB woild be on him before he could break free. With the new era LB being lighter and faster it will not work if teams know whats coming. We need a RB that can keep teams on edge and teams know if they blitz and miss him he is going 60+ yards. I know they do not grow on trees but you can find them in the mid rounds of the draft Literally an Adrian Peterson, Todd Gurley type running back. We need to commit to the run first, those guys would waste away in our offense.

09-18-2016, 06:10 PM	#3
saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: Game Day: New Orleans Saints @ New York G'nats Originally Posted by dizzle88 Literally an Adrian Peterson, Todd Gurley type running back. We need to commit to the run first, those guys would waste away in our offense. In order to do. That your going to have to fire Sean Payton and rebuild the line because it's a pass blocking line don't think it was ever designed to run the ball in the first place.Sean doesn't believe in running the ball period it don't matter who you have at running back. dizzle88 likes this.

09-18-2016, 06:19 PM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Re: Game Day: New Orleans Saints @ New York G'nats Originally Posted by saintshrimp In order to do. That your going to have to fire Sean Payton and rebuild the line because it's a pass blocking line don't think it was ever designed to run the ball in the first place.Sean doesn't believe in running the ball period it don't matter who you have at running back. I'm in favour of getting rid of Sean Payton, three straight years starting 0-2, two straight 7-9 seasons, multiple players getting injured every season, offering huge contracts to lackluster players...the list goes on. Payton does a favour and keeps his friends around, he is surrounded by "Yes Men" Vitt, Dennis Allen, McMahon, whoever the strength and conditioning coach is and Bill Johnson Every year we get lackluster play and every year Payton brushes it under the carpet If we lose the next two weeks, the ENTIRE staff need to be evaluated.

09-18-2016, 06:21 PM	#5
saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: Game Day: New Orleans Saints @ New York G'nats Originally Posted by dizzle88 I'm in favour of getting rid of Sean Payton, three straight years starting 0-2, two straight 7-9 seasons, multiple players getting injured every season, offering huge contracts to lackluster players...the list goes on. Payton does a favour and keeps his friends around, he is surrounded by "Yes Men" Vitt, Dennis Allen, McMahon, whoever the strength and conditioning coach is and Bill Johnson Every year we get lackluster play and every year Payton brushes it under the carpet If we lose the next two weeks, the ENTIRE staff need to be evaluated. Amen with you 100 percent I'd include Mickey and everyone else in the building too dizzle88 likes this.

09-18-2016, 06:11 PM	#6
AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	Re: Game Day: New Orleans Saints @ New York G'nats If Cadet and Coleman can not suit up anymore games that'd be great.... Rsanders24 likes this.

09-18-2016, 06:12 PM	#7
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Game Day: New Orleans Saints @ New York G'nats It doesn't have to be somebody so high profile. Bell and Lacey were second round picks. Obviously his injuries count him out but Andre Ellington could do both out the backfield. Pierre Thomas If they can carry 170-200 times a year and add 30-50 receptions you can spot fill the rest

09-18-2016, 06:14 PM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,824 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Game Day: New Orleans Saints @ New York G'nats I sure wish we had another vet at WR in Brandon Coleman's spot. He is not a very good receiver in my opinion. jeanpierre and captainshawn like this.

09-18-2016, 06:15 PM	#9
saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: Game Day: New Orleans Saints @ New York G'nats To me the only reason we run the ball is to give the Wrs a chance to catch their breath we really don't intend to gain much from it