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hagan714 09-21-2016 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 720289)
Bull...

Anthony is an ideally suited 3-4 linebacker

Physically he can handle a 43 defense. He has the same physical skill set if not more than, say Vilma.

The next question is the mental aspect.

43 OLB is a different can of worms all together.

The one statement about Anothy I agreed on during the draft was "guessing rather than instinctive" or Reads and then react. we all knew we were taking him with the second first but that was a reach pick and we all knew it.

What a waste of learning time at MLB. Change to 43 is one thing but move him to OLB is another.

Rotate him at MLB for the love of god and stop stagnating his growth.

Utah_Saint 09-21-2016 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 720635)
Physically he can handle a 43 defense. He has the same physical skill set if not more than, say Vilma.

The next question is the mental aspect.

43 OLB is a different can of worms all together.

The one statement about Anothy I agreed on during the draft was "guessing rather than instinctive" or Reads and then react. we all knew we were taking him with the second first but that was a reach pick and we all knew it.

What a waste of learning time at MLB. Change to 43 is one thing but move him to OLB is another.

Rotate him at MLB for the love of god and stop stagnating his growth.

I agree. He needs to be rotated in for Laurinaitis much more frequently. Not only will it help Anthony progress, but it will help Laurinaitis stay fresh. Lord knows he could use it.

blackangold 09-21-2016 01:24 PM

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We'll end up letting him go next year and resign JL to a longer extension because he is a "Payton guy". JL at this point reminds be of a worse Scott Shanle, looks even less athletic.

jeanpierre 09-21-2016 02:58 PM

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Seems like ever since we drafted Ingram, we started this regression of developing players...

Ingram, fine player, was a bust for the investment (first round pick AND a second round pick)...

He really didn't begin to have an impact until his contract year of his rookie contract period...

Two players I don't get that are not playing enough for us right now are Stephone Anthony (First round pick, plus we gave up Jimmy Graham (high value at time of trade) who did a fine job his rookie year; another is Vonn Bell who is not playing because of the contract investment in yet another FA bust, Jairus Byrd...

And in Bell's case we spent two draft picks to move up and get him; so because Byrd has finally decided to play we should sit Vonn Bell?!? Saints FO spent the picks to get him, play the young man, now!!!

And get Anthony on the field now!!!

I wasn't even a big fan of the two draft pics to get Onyemata, yet another project, who really needs to be able to play now, at the least, in a rotation to spell the loss of Rankins...

This reminds me so much of Jim Mora and the same questions I had for that *ss, "if you're not going to play them, then why in the hell did you draft them?!?"

lee909 09-21-2016 06:33 PM

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He is being repackaged as a all pro CB

Lord_Saint83 09-21-2016 08:32 PM

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As of late it seems like the Saints are drafting these rookies and expecting them to play week one like a five year veteran. I think thats what they thought with Anthony and Peat as well. Theres going to be growing pains but they will shape up or may not who knows but don't draft a mlb and change his position his second year after he play mlb through out college same with Peat too you draft a life long lt and have him play every spot on the line till you find out he is ok at lg. Some players arent jack of all trades master of none. Give me a master of one any day.

AsylumGuido 09-21-2016 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 720714)
As of late it seems like the Saints are drafting these rookies and expecting them to play week one like a five year veteran. I think thats what they thought with Anthony and Peat as well. Theres going to be growing pains but they will shape up or may not who knows but don't draft a mlb and change his position his second year after he play mlb through out college same with Peat too you draft a life long lt and have him play every spot on the line till you find out he is ok at lg. Some players arent jack of all trades master of none. Give me a master of one any day.

Maybe the Saints aren't hoping they can, but are drafting for the future. Maybe it is the inpatient fans that are pressing the overly ambitious expectations.

Lord_Saint83 09-21-2016 08:49 PM

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Maybe so but why have Anthony change positions to accomodate a aged, slow, and weak Laurinaitis just because he can get the call and line up everyone right? For all that we could of hired Vilma as a assistant coach to help him out, idk instead of wasting a roster spot.

AsylumGuido 09-21-2016 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 720716)
Maybe so but why have Anthony change positions to accomodate a aged, slow, and weak Laurinaitis just because he can get the call and line up everyone right? For all that we could of hired Vilma as a assistant coach to help him out, idk instead of wasting a roster spot.

I really think that Laurinaitis is quite a bit better than you are giving him credit for.

Lord_Saint83 09-21-2016 09:38 PM

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He was good a cpl of years ago but now he reminds me of ray lewis the last cpl of years before he retired.

Rell&Gold 09-21-2016 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 720718)
He was good a cpl of years ago but now he reminds me of ray lewis the last cpl of years before he retired.

Dont be disrespectful to Ray Lewis like that....

Utah_Saint 09-21-2016 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 720717)
I really think that Laurinaitis is quite a bit better than you are giving him credit for.

It's not just us, PFF has him ranked 79th out of 80 LBs based on this year.

WillMacKenzie 09-21-2016 10:54 PM

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hagan714 09-22-2016 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 720636)
I agree. He needs to be rotated in for Laurinaitis much more frequently. Not only will it help Anthony progress, but it will help Laurinaitis stay fresh. Lord knows he could use it.

agreed and IF this season keeps going the way it is now I jave to think there is no good reason not to work him in.

Utah_Saint 09-22-2016 06:57 PM

Re: Where is Stephone Anthony??
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 720817)
agreed and IF this season keeps going the way it is now I jave to think there is no good reason not to work him in.

The only reason I can think of is that he hasn't learned the Dennis Allen's defensive scheme's yet. Or at least not to Allen's satisfaction.

Danno 09-22-2016 07:26 PM

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Perhaps he's just a a better fit for a 3-4 and we run a 4-3, and he doesn't cover all that well.

blackangold 09-22-2016 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 720831)
Perhaps he's just a a better fit for a 3-4 and we run a 4-3, and he doesn't cover all that well.

One of his assets was coverage ability...

I like Anthony, thought he did well last year as a rookie. The kid should be on the field playing ball.

jeanpierre 10-06-2016 11:18 AM

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Translation: He doesn't fit my scheme and he doesn't grasp my concepts


jeanpierre 10-06-2016 11:20 AM

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Translation: Basically DA thinks he's a Dumbass...


jeanpierre 10-06-2016 11:27 AM

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Translation: Dennis Allen is Joe Isuzu's son, he's lying...


Pete 10-06-2016 03:52 PM

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Dennis Allen said the coaches have "absolutely not" lost confidence in LB Stephone Anthony. Says Saints still need to develop him.
11:17 AM - 6 Oct 2016



Of course you haven't DA....Bull**** utter BS

dizzle88 10-06-2016 04:10 PM

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As always, whenever we need any information Jeanpierre comes through for us!! Thanks JP for all the updates you post!

Pete 10-06-2016 04:53 PM

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Yeah dizzle88, I much rather Jeanpierre than JeanStanleyB...100% statement of Truth

brees84 10-06-2016 05:39 PM

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"Saints developing linebackers" lol

Nice one...

K Major 10-06-2016 07:28 PM

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Circle back to 2015 ... we gave up a lot of yards in the middle of the field (specifically to TE's).

I want Anthony to succeed but IDK... something just doesn't sound right.

hagan714 10-07-2016 07:36 AM

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If they are going to make him an OLB then they have there work cut out for them.. Knock on him in college was he was a read and react player not much on instincts. That why he played MLB.

jeanpierre 10-07-2016 02:42 PM

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More DA public dressing of Anthony...


Danno 10-07-2016 03:02 PM

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So he doesn't understand his assignments huh?

Martez Wilson 2.0

saintfan 10-07-2016 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 723091)
So he doesn't understand his assignments huh?

Martez Wilson 2.0

Man I sure hope not - was really thinking this guy was gonna stick.

jeanpierre 10-07-2016 06:56 PM

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Thought he played well last year, making tackles all over the field...

This is limited effort, thinking on the coaches' part...

Danno 10-07-2016 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by saintfan (Post 723103)
Man I sure hope not - was really thinking this guy was gonna stick.

Me too. I guess my hope is that he's moved to a new position and hasn't quite learned all about it yet.

Deuce mentioned today on WWL that DA's system is fairly sophisticated so he may just need some more time to learn his assignments. It happens to a lot of young players who got by in College because they were freakish athletes.

ChrisXVI 10-07-2016 07:28 PM

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I wonder how much of it is not wanting to learn his assignments. It would be pretty immature to pout about losing the MLB job but it's a possibility.

blackangold 10-07-2016 07:43 PM

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I think the real question we are all missing here....

Can he play CB?

jeanpierre 10-08-2016 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 723107)
Me too. I guess my hope is that he's moved to a new position and hasn't quite learned all about it yet.

Deuce mentioned today on WWL that DA's system is fairly sophisticated so he may just need some more time to learn his assignments. It happens to a lot of young players who got by in College because they were freakish athletes.

As opposed to Rob Ryan's scheme? There were so many comments made to the reporters how Allen was simplifying the defense...

Neaux, this is more than they're saying...

The comments made by Keenan Lewis about not being one of Dennis Allen's guys is probably closer to the truth of what's going on with this story...

Glad we finally have a beat writer, Katzenstein asking some the right questions...

Holder, Underhill are obviously too smart to rock the boat with the Saints' coaches...

jeanpierre 10-09-2016 06:31 AM

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Dennis Allen is definitely "the guy" so Stephone Anthony has gotta find a way to be D.A.'s guy...


jeanpierre 10-10-2016 01:25 AM

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jeanpierre 10-10-2016 01:26 AM

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And what is it exactly that Dennis Allen is asking of Stephone Anthony?!?


Crusader 10-10-2016 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 723198)

Doesn't have to be anything more than that. Quicker reactions a lot of times comes with experience. In the NFL if you react a split second to slow you won't make the play.

jeanpierre 10-17-2016 10:16 AM

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Crusader 10-17-2016 12:00 PM

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Good! People might special teams don't matter but is such and important part of the game.


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