Who are we drafting with the #5 pick in the draft?

Euphoria · 09-19-2016, 04:05 PM

Sorry just wanted to start it... lol.

dizzle88 · 09-19-2016, 04:11 PM

Whoever we draft, Payton will move them to a position they've never played before.

lee909 · 09-19-2016, 04:18 PM

Ok its far too early to start thinking of draft position. Honestly id rather go 3-13 than 7-9. I know its madness to say you want to loose 4 games and obviously i dont want to loose games but 3-13 goves you a top 3 three pick and we need either a true game changer or a big bargaining chip. You can flip a top three pick for s pair of mid round 1st.

Dont get me wrong id much rather turn this season around and go 11-5.

Question is if you get a top 3-5 pick and get a chance to take a future franchise QB do you take it. Sit them behind Drew until that break clause in 2018,even though he may play longer. It would be a big question to be asked.

dizzle88 · 09-19-2016, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Ok its far too early to start thinking of draft position. Honestly id rather go 3-13 than 7-9. I know its madness to say you want to loose 4 games and obviously i dont want to loose games but 3-13 goves you a top 3 three pick and we need either a true game changer or a big bargaining chip. You can flip a top three pick for s pair of mid round 1st.

Dont get me wrong id much rather turn this season around and go 11-5.

Question is if you get a top 3-5 pick and get a chance to take a future franchise QB do you take it. Sit them behind Drew until that break clause in 2018,even though he may play longer. It would be a big question to be asked.

In all fairness, I get your reasoning.

Whilst it would be awful to go 3-13, it automatically makes something happen. It could force us to clean house and we also get a great player.

7-9, we miss the playoffs and get a player in the mid to late teens.

Plus last season when we beat the falcons for our 7th win in the final week, Payton ran onto the field like we'd won the superbowl, it was completely embarrassing.

CheramieIII · 09-19-2016, 04:24 PM

We won't be drafting 5th. Our defense is really so much better. We only allowed 70 yard rushing and last week would've held the Raiders to 92 without the 75 yard run. Its our pass defense and I place that solely on injuries.

Euphoria · 09-19-2016, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by CheramieIII

We won't be drafting 5th. Our defense is really so much better. We only allowed 70 yard rushing and last week would've held the Raiders to 92 without the 75 yard run. Its our pass defense and I place that solely on injuries.

And yet we are still 0-2.

Just not enough D. When teams can make the plays when they count its game over.

lee909 · 09-19-2016, 04:28 PM

True but the injuries will be there for a good few weeks yet. Who know when Breaux is back 100%

Id like to the see the defense but up a show a few week on the bounce before i proclaim it fixed.

Good start though

blackangold · 09-19-2016, 04:38 PM

DB40 and Rankins coming back mid season will be big, but it won't matter if we are 0-8.
We need to be at least 4-4 when they come back to have a realistic shot at the playoffs.

captainshawn · 09-20-2016, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

DB40 and Rankins coming back mid season will be big, but it won't matter if we are 0-8.
We need to be at least 4-4 when they come back to have a realistic shot at the playoffs.

No, it won't matter but I seriously doubt we'll be 0-8.
We've lost 2 games by a combined total of 4 point's.
I know it sucks to have that feeling of despair on Sunday afternoon but I am pretty confident that the W's will happen. Of course, I am somewhat biased too...

dizzle88 · 09-20-2016, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by captainshawn

No, it won't matter but I seriously doubt we'll be 0-8.
We've lost 2 games by a combined total of 4 point's.
I know it sucks to have that feeling of despair on Sunday afternoon but I am pretty confident that the W's will happen. Of course, I am somewhat biased too...

Look back at 2014, lost to detroit by 1 point, lost to atlanta by 3 points, lost to san fran by 3 points.

All these "we only lost by 4 combined points" doesn't matter at all, we have lost by those margins for the last two years and this is now the third.

Teams that are going anywhere consistently come out on the right side of those games, like we did in 2010 with close wins vs bengals and cowboys.

09-19-2016, 04:05 PM	#1
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09-19-2016, 04:33 PM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Who are we drafting with the #5 pick in the draft? Originally Posted by lee909 Ok its far too early to start thinking of draft position. Honestly id rather go 3-13 than 7-9. I know its madness to say you want to loose 4 games and obviously i dont want to loose games but 3-13 goves you a top 3 three pick and we need either a true game changer or a big bargaining chip. You can flip a top three pick for s pair of mid round 1st. Dont get me wrong id much rather turn this season around and go 11-5. Question is if you get a top 3-5 pick and get a chance to take a future franchise QB do you take it. Sit them behind Drew until that break clause in 2018,even though he may play longer. It would be a big question to be asked. In all fairness, I get your reasoning. Whilst it would be awful to go 3-13, it automatically makes something happen. It could force us to clean house and we also get a great player. 7-9, we miss the playoffs and get a player in the mid to late teens. Plus last season when we beat the falcons for our 7th win in the final week, Payton ran onto the field like we'd won the superbowl, it was completely embarrassing.

09-19-2016, 07:51 PM	#6
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Who are we drafting with the #5 pick in the draft? Originally Posted by CheramieIII We won't be drafting 5th. Our defense is really so much better. We only allowed 70 yard rushing and last week would've held the Raiders to 92 without the 75 yard run. Its our pass defense and I place that solely on injuries. And yet we are still 0-2. Just not enough D. When teams can make the plays when they count its game over.

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CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,496 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Who are we drafting with the #5 pick in the draft? We won't be drafting 5th. Our defense is really so much better. We only allowed 70 yard rushing and last week would've held the Raiders to 92 without the 75 yard run. Its our pass defense and I place that solely on injuries. Crusader and Beastmode like this.

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lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Who are we drafting with the #5 pick in the draft? True but the injuries will be there for a good few weeks yet. Who know when Breaux is back 100% Id like to the see the defense but up a show a few week on the bounce before i proclaim it fixed. Good start though

09-19-2016, 04:38 PM	#8
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Who are we drafting with the #5 pick in the draft? DB40 and Rankins coming back mid season will be big, but it won't matter if we are 0-8. We need to be at least 4-4 when they come back to have a realistic shot at the playoffs. dizzle88 likes this.

09-20-2016, 11:58 AM	#9
captainshawn Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Lake Hermitage, La. Posts: 289	Re: Who are we drafting with the #5 pick in the draft? Originally Posted by blackangold DB40 and Rankins coming back mid season will be big, but it won't matter if we are 0-8. We need to be at least 4-4 when they come back to have a realistic shot at the playoffs. No, it won't matter but I seriously doubt we'll be 0-8. We've lost 2 games by a combined total of 4 point's. I know it sucks to have that feeling of despair on Sunday afternoon but I am pretty confident that the W's will happen. Of course, I am somewhat biased too...

09-20-2016, 02:34 PM	#10
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Who are we drafting with the #5 pick in the draft? Originally Posted by captainshawn No, it won't matter but I seriously doubt we'll be 0-8. We've lost 2 games by a combined total of 4 point's. I know it sucks to have that feeling of despair on Sunday afternoon but I am pretty confident that the W's will happen. Of course, I am somewhat biased too... Look back at 2014, lost to detroit by 1 point, lost to atlanta by 3 points, lost to san fran by 3 points. All these "we only lost by 4 combined points" doesn't matter at all, we have lost by those margins for the last two years and this is now the third. Teams that are going anywhere consistently come out on the right side of those games, like we did in 2010 with close wins vs bengals and cowboys.

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