Why are you 0-2 with your back against the wall?

dizzle88 · 09-20-2016, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by darstep

In both losses we were a couple of key plays from being 2-0 and leading the south.
Everybody else is 1-1.
The wheels haven't fallen off yet but I think we need to get our sh!+ together.
I work with a Failcon. As dirty as a bird can get.
We even that score and we are right back in it.
We don't look deep enough to go deep, but we are capable of some good football.

We have lost games at the very end or by small margins for 3 straight seasons, it didn't get cleaned up then and i have a hard time believing it will get sorted until we get rid of Payton and his buddies.

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2016, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

We have lost games at the very end or by small margins for 3 straight seasons, it didn't get cleaned up then and i hard time believing it will get sorted until we get rid of Payton and his buddies.

We lost those games because the defense couldn't stop anyone. You cannot argue the fact that the defense does look much improved.

dizzle88 · 09-20-2016, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

We lost those games because the defense couldn't stop anyone. You cannot argue the fact that the defense does look much improved.

Not going to argue because I agree, vs the giants and for 3 quarters of the Raiders game our D looked much, much better.

Tackling in the Giants game was very solid all around.

saintfan · 09-20-2016, 08:46 AM

We are going to WIN!

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Euphoria · 09-20-2016, 09:22 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Sometimes it is how you lose. Pass interference calls killed us game one, a game we lost inside of one minute. That is correctable and in game two we saw less of it. In game two a blocked FG returned for a TD killed us in a game we lost on a last second kick. That is also correctable. Had we been manhandled in either game then dooming and glooming might be appropriate. But considering we have all divisional games remaining and sit only a game out of first it is too early to be giving up.

IT IS NEVER HOW YOU LOSE!!!

Dude its always about WINNING. You win or go home. Doesn't matter how you lose at the end of the day you get a number added to the L column.

Reasons/excuses or for losers.

K Major · 09-20-2016, 09:31 AM

This team needs to learn how to close and finish.

Two very winnable games.

AsylumGuido · 09-20-2016, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

IT IS NEVER HOW YOU LOSE!!!

Dude its always about WINNING. You win or go home. Doesn't matter how you lose at the end of the day you get a number added to the L column.

Reasons/excuses or for losers.

No. How you lose is important in evaluating a team going forward.

saintfan · 09-20-2016, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

IT IS NEVER HOW YOU LOSE!!!

Dude its always about WINNING. You win or go home. Doesn't matter how you lose at the end of the day you get a number added to the L column.

Reasons/excuses or for losers.

Ah, but for our defense it is a 'win' just to be in the game in the 4th quarter.

Euphoria · 09-20-2016, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No. How you lose is important in evaluating a team going forward.

It is to late for that.

I don't know what they were doing in the off season but adding O line and other players who you end up starting the week before your opening game is absolutely horrible.

They were behind from the begining.

They were not able to establish a winning culture in the off season and just was walking though the motions and didn't do what winning ball clubs do and that is be prepared for the start of the season.

Euphoria · 09-20-2016, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by saintfan

Ah, but for our defense it is a 'win' just to be in the game in the 4th quarter.

I didn't see us win a game yet!!!

Last time I checked our record is 0-2

09-20-2016, 08:21 AM	#11
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: Why are you 0-2 with your back against the wall? Originally Posted by darstep In both losses we were a couple of key plays from being 2-0 and leading the south. Everybody else is 1-1. The wheels haven't fallen off yet but I think we need to get our sh!+ together. I work with a Failcon. As dirty as a bird can get. We even that score and we are right back in it. We don't look deep enough to go deep, but we are capable of some good football. We have lost games at the very end or by small margins for 3 straight seasons, it didn't get cleaned up then and i have a hard time believing it will get sorted until we get rid of Payton and his buddies.

09-20-2016, 08:22 AM	#12
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Why are you 0-2 with your back against the wall? Originally Posted by dizzle88 We have lost games at the very end or by small margins for 3 straight seasons, it didn't get cleaned up then and i hard time believing it will get sorted until we get rid of Payton and his buddies. We lost those games because the defense couldn't stop anyone. You cannot argue the fact that the defense does look much improved. mleg1972, dizzle88, st thomas and 1 others like this.

09-20-2016, 08:28 AM	#13
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: Why are you 0-2 with your back against the wall? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido We lost those games because the defense couldn't stop anyone. You cannot argue the fact that the defense does look much improved. Not going to argue because I agree, vs the giants and for 3 quarters of the Raiders game our D looked much, much better. Tackling in the Giants game was very solid all around. RockyMountainSaint and mleg1972 like this.

09-20-2016, 08:46 AM	#14
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why are you 0-2 with your back against the wall? We are going to WIN! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

09-20-2016, 09:22 AM	#15
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why are you 0-2 with your back against the wall? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Sometimes it is how you lose. Pass interference calls killed us game one, a game we lost inside of one minute. That is correctable and in game two we saw less of it. In game two a blocked FG returned for a TD killed us in a game we lost on a last second kick. That is also correctable. Had we been manhandled in either game then dooming and glooming might be appropriate. But considering we have all divisional games remaining and sit only a game out of first it is too early to be giving up. IT IS NEVER HOW YOU LOSE!!! Dude its always about WINNING. You win or go home. Doesn't matter how you lose at the end of the day you get a number added to the L column. Reasons/excuses or for losers.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Why are you 0-2 with your back against the wall? Originally Posted by Euphoria IT IS NEVER HOW YOU LOSE!!! Dude its always about WINNING. You win or go home. Doesn't matter how you lose at the end of the day you get a number added to the L column. Reasons/excuses or for losers. No. How you lose is important in evaluating a team going forward. darstep likes this.

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saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why are you 0-2 with your back against the wall? Originally Posted by Euphoria IT IS NEVER HOW YOU LOSE!!! Dude its always about WINNING. You win or go home. Doesn't matter how you lose at the end of the day you get a number added to the L column. Reasons/excuses or for losers. Ah, but for our defense it is a 'win' just to be in the game in the 4th quarter.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why are you 0-2 with your back against the wall? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No. How you lose is important in evaluating a team going forward. It is to late for that. I don't know what they were doing in the off season but adding O line and other players who you end up starting the week before your opening game is absolutely horrible. They were behind from the begining. They were not able to establish a winning culture in the off season and just was walking though the motions and didn't do what winning ball clubs do and that is be prepared for the start of the season.

09-20-2016, 10:48 AM	#20
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Why are you 0-2 with your back against the wall? Originally Posted by saintfan Ah, but for our defense it is a 'win' just to be in the game in the 4th quarter. I didn't see us win a game yet!!! Last time I checked our record is 0-2

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