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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; two years sure. but he is talking four. think you\'ll be happy doling out top 5 pay to him at age 38? trade brooks? whodi is on brooks sabbatical so i\'ll say it- heck yeah. no way he is worth ...
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03-10-2005, 12:21 PM | #11 |
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two years sure. but he is talking four. think you\'ll be happy doling out top 5 pay to him at age 38?
trade brooks? whodi is on brooks sabbatical so i\'ll say it- heck yeah. no way he is worth $6mil a yr. give me mike mcmahon for $2mil and let alex smith, andrew walter, or someone train for a season or two and i have a few million more to remodel the defense. give me another will smith and courtney watson with $14million to spend! bye bye lawyer milloy, antowain smith, tebucky jones, joe andruzzi, troy brown, roman phifer, etc.- you cost too much for us. we want a 4th championship in 5 years. |
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03-10-2005, 12:30 PM | #12 |
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As for Horn\'s contract, you said it (as did I a long time ago). You make his contract incentive heavy... almost overloaded. If the guy produces like a top 5, he gets paid like one. If not, he doesn\'t. Besides, I\'ll bet you any amount of money that you want that the guy\'s contract will be backloaded. They ALWAYS are. He won\'t end up MAKING top 5 money even if his contract is WORTH top 5. On more thing. There are 24 starting positions on a football team including kickers and punters. That means there are 120 players who have \"top 5\" contracts. That means there should be about 3.5 players paid \"top 5\" money per team. Currently, the Saints have 1 - Howard, who you want to trade. Now, you admit that no player has EARNED top 5 money more than Joe Horn. So who are your top 5 guys moving forward? McKenzie? He\'s not top 5. Deuce? Maybe, if the guy has a good year this year and proves that he\'s not a really talented average RB. Bentley? Bentley is a top 5 center? [Edited on 10/3/2005 by WhoDat] |
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03-10-2005, 01:02 PM | #13 |
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When did these other players say they wanted top 5 money? I never heard that. Joe Horn did though. Flat out, he wants top 5 money. Of the players mentioned, Howard is pretty much guaranteed top 5 money. We can\'t afford that and yes his 8 mil is keeping us and will keep us from getting it done. MM is not gonna get top 5 money, and I have yet to hear him ask for ti from us. Nor Deuce, nor LeCharles. It is no secret they are working on an extension for LeCharles right now. So I really don\'t understand how it can be implied all these guys want top 5 money, when the only one who has said it is Horn.
We agree on Horn\'s contract being incentive heavy, but do you think Horn will go for that? He is looking for a big payday, I don\'t think we should give it to him. If he DOES accept it, fine. If not, he needs to realize he is almost 35, play out the last year, and we will see where things are then. If we trade Howard, chances are we get a high second or a low first. I think that is pretty much his caliber. I am with LKelley on this one. To quote him:
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03-10-2005, 01:21 PM | #14 |
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I agree..34 is old for Football...
But.. I can\'t ingore that fact that Horn is just flat out..our best player... 4 years would , without a doubt...seal him up for the remainder of his carreer, which is big for alot of us...cuz we want him to retire a Saint... An incentive based contract is the only viable choice...Do I think he will take it?...Yes...His attitude is that of a winner...and a competetor...and he , in his mind, is a top 5 guy...and hethinks he can produce top 5... Sign him up....and watch him go back to the Pro Bowl next year....maybe even the next 2 years....He\'s that good... |
03-10-2005, 01:24 PM | #15 |
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I don\'t disagree shadow, I really don\'t. If he accepts an incentive heavy contract, beautiful. Lock him up. But I don\'t think he will. We will see.
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03-10-2005, 01:29 PM | #16 |
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Let\'s also not forget that Howard didn\'t ask for top 5 money either. He may be willing to play for much less. We don\'t know. It\'s the Saints who have chosen to franchise him rather than work out a contract for the second year in a row.
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03-10-2005, 02:26 PM | #17 |
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Darrell Green Some rare players play beyond thier \'\'prime\'\' I truley belive Horn is one of those guys... |
03-10-2005, 02:52 PM | #18 |
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something that we haven\'t talked about is Adrian mcpearson and the saints betting in their locker room--is that a place you want to put adrian mcPearson-he of the betting on his own games?
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03-10-2005, 03:36 PM | #19 |
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Just for you Who.
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03-10-2005, 03:39 PM | #20 |
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Horn Interview part 2...really good read...
I had actualy posted that same story a few months ago...
I wish there were some way that Howard and the team would agree to keep him on, and give us that deadly rotation... |