Yesterdays win - some observations
 

By now most of you know I'm not Paytons biggest fan, but I do have to give credit where it's due and thought I'd mention some other observations, I'd like to hear what any of you noticed too

The Chargers scored 24 first half points and 10 second half points

The defense changed to man coverage predominantly in the second half and the results looked much better, I didn't notice Receivers running wide open like they were in the first half.

Is Brees okay? The last couple drives, a few of his passes landed short and we opted for 3 straight runs in the redzone, not really like us?

Vonn Bell had the typical up and down rookie start.
Gave himself a very bad angle on the Inman long TD, but then forced a huge fumble on Melvin Gordon.

The draft critique on him was he does not like to tackle, he laid some pretty nice hits yesterday, including that one in the first half where he smacked Dexter McCluster out of bounds.

Cam Jordan was invisible, that is not good. We are paying him far too much money, he has not been a factor for weeks...

Nick Fairley is an absolute animal
Having Tyler Davison back helped at the point of attack.

Michael Thomas is going to be great for us.

Craig Robertson had a rocky start with a blown coverage TD, but everything started going better when we changed the scheme and besides that he is very disruptive tackler.

I'd personally keep him at MLB. Which begs the question, how much do the coaches not like Stephone Anthony?

Everyone forgot that FB is still a football position and Kuhn made them pay.

Big win! It's a relief not be disappointed on a monday morning for once.

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Pretty much hit the nail on the head. I don't know what the heck we were thinking playing so much Cover 2 with someone getting his first action at MLB. That coverage is so dependent on the Mike it seems crazy to throw Robertson into that. I do have to disagree on Cameron Jordan. Thought he played a great game. The whole D-Line had excellent pressure all game.

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The man coverage in the second half stood out for me. I'm thinking
when your playing Rookies or non-starters it's easier for them to
understand and execute. Especially with a guy Like Rivers chucking
the ball.
Also Drew was way out of his comfort zone never really had time
to set. There were very few long balls and a lot of running plays.

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2015 - Stephone had 111 tackles.
2016 - rarely do I see him on the field.
Yesterday - 1 snap.

Maybe coaches feel that SA is a liability in coverage? Regressed in yr #2? Is he not completely healthy yet?

I don't think anyone knows what's going on.

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Michael Thomas is coming on strong. I picked him up on my FF team and I don't see his work effort going down even with a healthy Snead. Teams were kinda ignoring him at first but even covering closer now he's still making plays. Not kidding myself though, those turnovers at the end were a fluke.

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I hope the Raiders and the Giants think the same thing about how we gave them the game in the 4th quarter in those first two games.

I don't care man. I'll take the win!!

We get two weeks to talk about something positive. Hell yeah.

Sunshiners uuuuuniiite!!!!

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Anyone think Payton tries to land a trade partner for Anthony during the bye week?

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For those who have the game taped ...

Nick Fairley. He is a monster in the middle.

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i am one. for every good thing we can point to a bad. he has till his rookie contract is up for me to jump on this band wagon.

all in all i give him not bad for a rookie. still over hyped but not bad.

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MT is a strong ROY (rookie of the year) candidate. Even when he is covered, he is open. His former college team mate Vonn Bell is no slouch either.

Two excellent draft picks from Jeff Ireland.

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The biggest takeaway from the game for me is we held them to 38 rushing yards and the second would be that we won! If we could just get the secondary scheme right we would have a great defense. When you look back at the Raider and Giants games we could've easily won both and could be 3-1 right now. The Falcons will implode sometime during the season and we're tied with everyone else so we've have a legitimate shot at the playoffs.

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+1. Their pass defense is horrible. That win over Carolina yesterday .. fools gold. They can't stop no one from scoring.

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That was the big ah-ha to me too dizzle.

Maybe Dennis Allen had planned to run more man all season but since he lost his 5 top CB's had to adjust to something less demanding. Lewis, Breaux and Williams all play man well.

Well he may now have more confidence in Crawley, Webb and Moore and isn't afraid to mix in a lot more man cover.

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Webb, what is he? Our 8th string CB? It was a great play he mad on that INT.
Crawley looks like he needs some good Southern cooking. Give that boy some gumbo y'all! He needs to add 10lbs. He is a fighter thou. I like him a lot.

Our run D is a whole lot better with Tyeler Davison.

Nick Fairley is DISRUPTIVE.

That non-fumble for the Chargers early in the game was nonsense. Jenkins made a good play to strip that ball from what I saw.

Byrd actually had a pick on one of his few plays, just a shame it was negated by a penalty.

I look at it like those two late fumbles by the Charger was just karma giving a little back to us.

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I didn't get to watch the game but from reading the comments, etc. it sounds like he was a definite upgrade for JB.

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I am shocked that no one (at least I haven't seen it) has mentioned Nate Stupar. The guy was a beast yesterday, he was all over the field and to me he and Fairley were the biggest reason that defense turned it around in the second half.

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Amen! That boy can tackle! What a physical presence.

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8 tackles. I agree, he had a very good game.

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Stupar stood out to me as well. The defense gave up 34 points, but after a win it's easier to see the bright spots. I wish we were completely healthy.

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Just re-watching the second half now, Stupar made a great tackle at the San Diego 3 yard line when Gordon tried to cut outside.

Stupar bulldozed his man and knocked Gordon for a loss.

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I don't recall seeing him ever out of position and he definitely played with authority.

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I think stupar is on something. He seems very high strung all the time. Hope he keeps it up!

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If Nate Stupar was with us last year when we drafted SA & couldn't beat him out of the spot why now ???....Stupar did play well I would just find this organization VERY incompetent if they cant get SA on the field yes he hasn't looked the best but you could say that for a handful of players....I really really really want a top notch LB & DL coach because that's ridiculous a player doesn't just get "worse" Just all of a sudden cant comprehend any other pos outside of MLB? that's tough....& If so WHY DRAFT HIM? to not play the "ONLY" position he knows

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"Number 29 is an eligible receiver."

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- I dont understand why we called 3 straight runs on the drive where Michael Thomas scored.... At that point we needed all the clock we could save.

-- Is Michael Thomas our new Colston?

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Stupar wasn't with us last year.

I know a lot of people were high on Anthony last year, but I was maybe his biggest detractor on here. He had the tackles on the stat sheet, but it seemed like on a lot of big plays he was consistently one who was getting beat. He has speed, so at times he would flash a nice play that looked explosive. I just didn't see near enough to predict a star out of him.

That said, I hadn't given up on him after one year. I just wasn't on board with the hype. And now that he's become invisible, I'm wondering if he didn't blow more assignments than I, or anyone else, knew about. It's easy to see when a guy makes an obvious mistake, but he must be pretty bad at diagnosing plays and communicating. I can only assume that, because otherwise you would think they would have him out there taking his lumps and learning.

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Noticed we were sending an extra man to get some kinda pass rush and this just confirmed what I saw...

Our pass defenders are better athletes than most and I was glad to see us take advantage with man-man as well...

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Rivers loves to throw deep, he doesn't throw many check downs. So therefore he has to hold the ball longer to wait for his receivers, going man coverage and sending extra blitzers was the best thing we could have done in the second half.

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I guess it is a new thing for us, we made adjustments on defense in the 2nd half? WTH? The sky must be falling.

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No matter how we won what matters is that we won. Being 1-3 is better than 0-4.

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All good points.............the season is not over yet. We should be getting Breaux and Rankins back soon too. The future looks better than it did mid way through the fourth quarter.