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He's not a bust, but a valued contributor...maybe not worth the multitude of picks spent to acquire him... not that it would matter anyway in light of our stellar recent draft history.

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Hell, I'd join the forum just to get kicked out...

From what is posted it would seem SR loaded with a-holes...

Fortunately, we've only got a couple of a-holes in this forum...

...and they're identified, well-managed in the forum...

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You just jinxed him Euphoria.
Payton will cut him tomorrow with no explanation.

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Without a doubt.

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I think someone meant "Jonathan Sullivan" when comparing busts of 1st round picks. If MI has a nickname like "lunchtable", then we might want to reconsider. Otherwise, though not spectacular, bust is not a defensible assessment of Mark Ingram's NFL tenure.

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now that we have kuhn for short yardage , i'm seeing ingram as a better back now. yall have to admit mark was turable in under a foot yardage. just not a blow out whoever is in front of him back. but if he has any kind of gap he drills it.

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This is one of those times where saying "I respect your opinion" is not applicable.

First off, to say that Leonard is not an NFL RB is the most absurd and anti-LSU biased statement I may have ever heard. No one could stop Fournette, including Florida's "vaunted" defense last year, until the bama game. Bama loaded up against him and dared LSU to pass, which they did not do. There is a reason Les Miles finally got fired. No human being on earth, no matter how talented, can run through a wall. He was given ZERO chance in that game.

Nobody has the combination of size, speed and all around ability as Fournette since Bo Jackson and Herschel Walker.

Secondly, why don't you quit complaining about threads talking about drafting LSU players? When is the last time there was one of those? You bring it up in just about every thread when no one is talking about it. YOU are keeping it alive. Move on.

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A whole lot of people? Most people in this thread have actually said he's at least decent.

He was terrible for the first three years, not just statistically, but just watching him run into the backs of his linemen and falling down was really depressing.

He IS now a decent player. I don't know what being in his sixth year proves. The guy rode the pine for much of his early years due to the aforementioned running into linemen.

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I don't think Fournette would be any more effective with limited carries. But we are in more third downs than any other offense in the league of our caliber or in the top 10. That's because of the 3-5 yard runs. Fournette might be a diva(ODB is) and will complain about less carries also.

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Reggie actually did end up a every down back in Miami but he went to the wrong team after who tried to make him what he was in NO. Same with SF. Miami's obsession with wanting to be a pass first team with a mediocre qb sent Reggie out the door. But with us he was not as effective.

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Based on what? Where are you getting this from? Your crystal ball needs some Windex.

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We didn't know ODB was a diva either until he came to the NFL. LSU's stud players are different than Bamas. RBs have a history of success from LSU compared to Bama. A stud player like Fournette is not going to accept what the saints give him. He is likely going to be someone who wants his stats padded.

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I got kicked off there a long time ago! I am proud of myself!

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I have Ingram on my fantasy team and he's doing very well thank you. If he can play and entire season without injury he will be one of the top RB's this year.

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And yet people piss and moan about Payton hating LSU players. A me first player is exactly what this team needs right now.
Fournettes backup had over 160 yards. LSU is a run first team and Fournette benefits from that. He won't be a very good NFL player you watch.

I remember a few years back I said Manziel wouldn't make it in the NFL and got blasted by Mitch and Danno

Might not have been them but I can't miss an opportunity to say told u so

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By me? I was never a Manzeil fan. Are you thinking of someone else?

I thought he was gonna be a bust from day 1.

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Lol now that I think about it I think it may have been on another board

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To address the dumb, uninformed portion of your post.
Many people who follow LA Prep football saw that Beckham was a diva at Newman.
He was the same at LSU, but much was covered up by fawning local media types.

To address the REALLY DUMB portion of your post.
How in the hell do you arrive at your position on Fournette?
That is purely a baseless and frankly stupid accusation to make.
You obviously pulled your entire post out of your ass and placed it here.

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You must be in a ppr then. He disappointed me after week 8 on I was so glad I landed DWill or I would not have gotten to my title game. He's TD dependent.

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If you said it in 2012 then it didn't make sense. But when we saw what he was all about that offseason and then how he declared after his sophomore season it was apparent he was gonna bust.

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You wanna start ****?

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I was high on ODB before the draft, ranking him ahead of the likes of Evans and Cooks before anyone else did. I don't live in Louisiana to know about any of his highschool history or whatever.

If you ****ing think Fournette is gonna be happy with 10 carries a game on this team then you are the one who is stupid. Payton hurts players' potential unless they are receivers and even those who aren't number ones but were in college get affected.

Number one players expect number one production.

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After reading all this I have two questions:

First, Rocky, who p*ssed in your cheerios, Bro? Did that chick take the fifty dollars and run out the side door at Cruisin' Da Coast? Those crazy @ss Mississippi girls...

Second, Does Danno not want his Johnny Manziel No. 2 Saints Jersey he's had on backorder now?

;)

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And for the record, the downward trend and spiraling started for ODB when that **** Lena Durham, dressed in a tuxedon and tried to pick him up at a New York Benefit...ODB has been unraveled ever since...

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From Girls? She's into that?

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Maybe you should educate yourself about a topic before posting about it. Fournette's backup (Derrius Guice) has been considered by many to be the second best back in the SEC behind his teammate. LSU has ridiculous talent at RB right now.

So how does that make Fournette somehow overrated? What makes you think being in a run first offense benefits him? People don't compare you to some of the greatest running backs in the history of college football because of stats. Melvin Gordon put up video game numbers a couple of years back at Wisconsin, and while people took notice, nobody was talking about him like they do with Fournette.

And by the way, there were tons of people, myself included, who thought Manziel would be a bust. That wasn't a hard one to call.

Oh, and one more thing... Fournette is not a "me first player". You took what one person said on here and made it out to be the gospel truth. OBJ appears to be a very self centered player. Ok..... Name ONE other player from LSU with that reputation. To take one player and declare that he represents the behavior of an ENTIRE university is completely ridiculous.

You have been clamoring for Chad Kelly in draft threads since last year. What a stand up guy he has been.

I could go on and on, but I'm going to end my rant here.

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No RB with exceptional talent is going to find that big hole for a big 20-30 yard running play with 10 carries a game. A big run comes one or two times in a game out of 15 carries at least.

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ok, this is funny.
OP comes out and says he left the other site because of the hostility.
A couple of us say, well its calmer here.
Now I got 4 or 5 pages of people insulting and flaming each other.
LOL.
people, calm the f*** down, and just have some fun.

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It's highly unlikely the Saints end up with Fournette. But regardless of who he ends up with, he won't need X amount of carries to warm up, which is the excuse people have used for years about Ingram.

Great running backs find daylight and run to it, through it, and they don't run into the back of a lineman, from the first play to the last play. It's one thing to wear down the other team over the course of the game, but this idea of the running back needing to get into a rhythm is something I don't believe in. It's not a position of rhythm.

I can guarantee you that if the Saints had a great running back, we'd see more running plays. We have an okay RB. And yes, Payton lacks balance in his play-calling. We ran the ball a lot with Deuce, when Payton first got here, and in later years used a mix of running backs and made it work. But they let the offensive line go to crap, and the play calling went with it. Even when it's working now, he seems to abandon it.

But none of this has anything to do with what type of talent Fournette is. He'll get his carries, no matter where he goes.

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Jesus ..... this place just makes me wanna cry right now. You're kidding about Mark Ingram, right?

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Ingram is a perfect running back for a Sean Payton team.... I wouldn't call him a bust... Trent Richardson that's a bust....

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How about this guy?

http://www.realclearsports.com/blogn...ryan-leaf1.jpg

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True, wh n I call someone a total idiot for saying Ingram is a bust, I mean it in a fun kinda way:p