Howard For Woodson
 

I didn't hear it but it all over everywhere that on WWL tonight Hub Arkush form Pro Footbal Weekly said there is a good possibility that the Saints will trade Howard to the Raiders for Woodson. It wouldn't be my choice. I would have Jamie Sharper signed already. But I like it more than doing nothing and paying his salary for 3 DE's. Woodson is wacky and over rated perhaps. Or more, he rates himself higher than he is. And injuries to boot. It would mean signing him for a few years. MacKenzie and he would be a shutdown duo, Smith behind them, wooo. I still dunno if they will ever have to throw if there is no improvement at DT or LB tho. Anyhoo, better to hear that the FO is doing something rather than nothing or more Meier impact players.

Howard For Woodson
 

Woodson is a big name and would sell tickets, but I don\'t think it\'s the move we need. We need a LB. We need a CB too, but one who is not a distraction and who is injury prone. Keep in mind, Charles is represented by the Poston brothers. They hold out everyone(Orlando Pace, Kellen Winslow, II, etc.). Not really something I think we need to deal with. Too much style and not enough substance IMO. LB-LB-LB-LB-LB-LB-LB!!!!!!!!! :casstet:

Howard For Woodson
 

Bad move IMO. If we need a corner, get Dyson. Use Howard to get a pick. Plus Woodson wants mega money. Isn\'t his agents the Postons? Worst agents to deal with in the league. Terrible terrible move if true.

Howard For Woodson
 

I think Oakland will likely resign him...I hope the team isn\'t dumb enough to let Howard go for Woodson alone..we\'d better get a few picks from the deal too...

There have been reports, most recently in USA Today on Friday, that the team has offered a deal that includes a $20 million signing bonus. But no one here is quite sure where that figure came from, since the Raiders haven\'t copped to making any offer, and Woodson\'s agent, Carl Poston, hasn\'t returned numerous calls.

Hence, the hang-up, which began when Woodson stayed away from May\'s first mandatory minicamp.

The good news for Raiders fans? It\'s not like the team and Poston aren\'t in contact.

\"Oh, we\'ve talked,\" Raiders player personnel chief and lead contract man Mike Lombardi said Saturday afternoon. But, Lombardi added, \"There is nothing new.\"

And there likely will not be for another 3 1/2 weeks or so. As long as Woodson accepts the tender offer and reports to work before the 53-man regular-season roster is set by Sept. 5, it will be as if he never was gone.

That\'s because first-year Raiders coach Norv Turner, who said he last talked to Woodson during the week of July 26, has made clear that the starting left cornerback position is waiting for him whenever he decides to come back - today, the end of training camp, even into the season.




[Edited on 11/3/2005 by shadowdrinker]

Howard For Woodson
 

I got that from an Oakland fan forum...the link is from www.sacbee.com..but..it wouldn\'t let me post the link...

Howard For Woodson
 

i like woodson but I hope this trade don\'t happen. I can\'t think of one reciever in our division that warrant us being put in a cap hole for signing a high price corner.

Howard For Woodson
 

POSTED ON kffl.com

;) Cowboys | Interested in Acquiring Howard? - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:53:14 -0800

Mike Sando, of the Tacoma News Tribune, reports the Dallas Cowboys have expressed interest in acquiring DE Darren Howard from the New Orleans Saints. Howard was designated the Saints\' franchise player this year.


Who Do the Cowgirls have that we want, or when do they pick?

Howard For Woodson
 

Honestly if you were to watch Charles Woodson play, he is VASTLY over rated as is Champ Bailey. For the money these guys are making, NO WAY. I rather have Mike and anyone of the free agent corners who will be HALF of what they make a year. No thanks. The thing that is wrong with this league is after you have one or two good seasons and make it to the Probowl, you are pretty much set to go every year no matter how much the regress the year after.

Watch tape and you\'ll see that Rolle, Law, McAllister, and maybe even Trufant are better than Bailey and Woodson. Bailey chokes in big games and Woodson is flat out :censored: . I\'d even rather have Shawn Springs, Nate Clements, Antoine Winfield, Fred Smooth, Anthony Henry, etc... I can go on and on. The money those two are making is absolutely ridiculous. Way better options out there.

[Edited on 11/3/2005 by papz]

Howard For Woodson
 

I\'d rather trade howard for picks and get carlos rogers in the first round and then grab some linebackers.

Howard For Woodson
 

WD52, Cowboys have 1 first round draft picks. Very interesting for us if they are interested in Howard.

Howard For Woodson
 

That trade intrigues me more then one to Seattle for their pick, but at the same time , If that Dallas team gets Howard there might just be one less playoff spot to chase?

Howard For Woodson
 

If Dallas gets Howard, they will have he, Ellis, glover and Ferguson on the line. They will rival Carolina as far as line goes, if they don\'t switch to a 3-4. That being said, we don\'t play them next year, and Seattle seems weaker this year than they were last year. We would have just as good a chance to get in the playoffs as we did last year. The difference this year to me is Carolina getting better on the O-line and on defence, plus they are healthy. But if we get at least Dallas\' 2nd first for Howard, we can get some more playmakers on D too, and they will be young.

Howard For Woodson
 

no woodson..

I like the cowboys deal-we might can get a first..plus there will be some good cb\'s available in the later rounds that haven\'t been injured the last 3 years, in the league 7 and have attitude problems.

Howard For Woodson
 

This seems like a deep draft from what I\'m hearing so a 2nd rounder from Dallas would be good. I like the thought of clearing cap space to re sign Horn and Deuce to long term contracts next year. I hope this happens. If and when it does I think we\'d have a decent foundation with keeping those two here along with the other youger talent.

P.S Do you know how long a contract Wil Smith has??? when will he be up??

Howard For Woodson
 

Will Smith has to have a 4 or 5 year deal since he was a rookie. No worries there. The worry is Charles Grant. That\'s why we can\'t keep Howard cause Grant will be commanding the same money if not more in a year or two.

Howard For Woodson
 

AHHH I see. Thank you. Hope we sign Grant too. By the way I\'m not a Woodson fan either, I would much rather get Dyson.

Howard For Woodson
 

there will be atleast a couple of really good cb\'s in the second or third round...but really it\'s not a need right now..linebacker is..atleast to everyone that hasn\'t been hanging with rickey williams.

Howard For Woodson
 

I\'ll tell you what - if the Saints get Woodson for Howard, I will be very excited.

I agree that CB is not of primary concern right now (or it shouldn\'t be). However, you put Woodson, McKenzie, Bellamy/Mitchell, and Smith in our backfield with the pass rush we\'ve got and all of a sudden this pass defense looks scary as hell.

That SHOULD give us the ability to draft LB, OT, DT, LB, LB, LB, LB, LB, LB, LB, LB, LB... how many rounds is that?... LB, LB, LB, LB, LB, LB, and LB. :)

While I have no faith that the Saints will make the right moves, it\'s Friday so I\'m trying to be positive! A first round OT, with 2nd round LB and DT, and a third round LB, makes this defense really exciting to me. Young and four 1st round draft picks on the d-line. Seriously fierce veterans in the secondary, and a young and talented LB corp that can mature together, makes our future pretty bright to me.

Howard For Woodson
 

WhoDat with optimism? It MUST be Friday!!!! :dancingmonkey:

Howard For Woodson
 

whodat..i\'ll tell ya what I\'ll accept woodson-if the raider throw in a second or third rounder.

I want picks..I want linebackers and wesley britt in the third round.

Howard For Woodson
 

If we can\'t afford Howard, no way in hell we afford Woodson. The POSTONS are his agents. The guys that make Orlando Pace get franchised every year until he fired them, and NOW he is working on a long term deal. the guys that had Julian Peterson saying he wanted a signing bonus like Peyton Manning? The guys who said they wanted Kellen Winslow to be paid like the number one pick. A TE???? No matter how good he may go back to being, we DO not want nor can we afford that headache. If it came down to that, i\'d keep Howard. This is just a bad idea.

Howard For Woodson
 

It\'s okay, you didn\'t know money grows on trees? I have 4 of them in my backyard. ;)

Howard For Woodson
 

Blah, blah, blah. All of our talent will be let go or traded within the next 3 or 4 years anyway Whoodi. Accept it. Deuce McAllister in SF. Joe Horn retires a Redskin. Grant signs with the Bucs. Stallworth acquired by Baltimore for a 4th rounder. McKenzie franchised twice then gone like Howard. I bet we keep Brooks though. Point is - take you\'re shot now, you don\'t have much time left. Go for broke, b/c IMO, taking a real shot and failing (4-12) is better than another year of play it safe all the way to 8-8.

Howard For Woodson
 

Damnit Who, you KNOW I am already on this train Have you forgotten who you are talking to? But I still wanna be realistic. :P

Howard For Woodson
 

Besides, 4-12 = Matt Leinart, and I have already posted that I think this is the real plan.

Howard For Woodson
 

These rumors about trading Howard for Woodson seem to be growing. I think there might be some truth to it.

I\'m for the trade myself. Woodson has missed less games in his whole career than what Howard has missed in 2-years.

Seems like a good deal to me.

Howard For Woodson
 

Holy Carp. Billy and I agree on a personnel move? Run for cover the sky is falling!!!! :)

Howard For Woodson
 

It is a miracle, too bad you\'re both :seeingstars: and :nutz: . lol

Howard For Woodson
 

AGREE 100%

Howard For Woodson
 

Their 1st, 1st rd pk is what we want and more specifically...........DERRICK JOHNSON, but i like our guys lets stick with the LB\'s we have!!

Howard For Woodson
 

Be afraid, be very afraid............................Billy and WhoDat agreeing on anything. Finding a 4 leaf clover in a 1\" square would be easier.