Howard For Woodson

LKelley67 · 03-10-2005, 10:39 PM

I didn't hear it but it all over everywhere that on WWL tonight Hub Arkush form Pro Footbal Weekly said there is a good possibility that the Saints will trade Howard to the Raiders for Woodson. It wouldn't be my choice. I would have Jamie Sharper signed already. But I like it more than doing nothing and paying his salary for 3 DE's. Woodson is wacky and over rated perhaps. Or more, he rates himself higher than he is. And injuries to boot. It would mean signing him for a few years. MacKenzie and he would be a shutdown duo, Smith behind them, wooo. I still dunno if they will ever have to throw if there is no improvement at DT or LB tho. Anyhoo, better to hear that the FO is doing something rather than nothing or more Meier impact players.

CanLoomis · 03-10-2005, 10:44 PM

Woodson is a big name and would sell tickets, but I don\'t think it\'s the move we need. We need a LB. We need a CB too, but one who is not a distraction and who is injury prone. Keep in mind, Charles is represented by the Poston brothers. They hold out everyone(Orlando Pace, Kellen Winslow, II, etc.). Not really something I think we need to deal with. Too much style and not enough substance IMO. LB-LB-LB-LB-LB-LB-LB!!!!!!!!! :casstet:

saintswhodi · 03-10-2005, 10:45 PM

Bad move IMO. If we need a corner, get Dyson. Use Howard to get a pick. Plus Woodson wants mega money. Isn\'t his agents the Postons? Worst agents to deal with in the league. Terrible terrible move if true.

shadowdrinker · 03-10-2005, 10:56 PM

I think Oakland will likely resign him...I hope the team isn\'t dumb enough to let Howard go for Woodson alone..we\'d better get a few picks from the deal too...

There have been reports, most recently in USA Today on Friday, that the team has offered a deal that includes a $20 million signing bonus. But no one here is quite sure where that figure came from, since the Raiders haven\'t copped to making any offer, and Woodson\'s agent, Carl Poston, hasn\'t returned numerous calls.

Hence, the hang-up, which began when Woodson stayed away from May\'s first mandatory minicamp.

The good news for Raiders fans? It\'s not like the team and Poston aren\'t in contact.

\"Oh, we\'ve talked,\" Raiders player personnel chief and lead contract man Mike Lombardi said Saturday afternoon. But, Lombardi added, \"There is nothing new.\"

And there likely will not be for another 3 1/2 weeks or so. As long as Woodson accepts the tender offer and reports to work before the 53-man regular-season roster is set by Sept. 5, it will be as if he never was gone.

That\'s because first-year Raiders coach Norv Turner, who said he last talked to Woodson during the week of July 26, has made clear that the starting left cornerback position is waiting for him whenever he decides to come back - today, the end of training camp, even into the season.

[Edited on 11/3/2005 by shadowdrinker]

shadowdrinker · 03-10-2005, 10:58 PM

I got that from an Oakland fan forum...the link is from www.sacbee.com..but..it wouldn\'t let me post the link...

bayouking318 · 03-10-2005, 11:51 PM

i like woodson but I hope this trade don\'t happen. I can\'t think of one reciever in our division that warrant us being put in a cap hole for signing a high price corner.

WD52 · 03-10-2005, 11:54 PM

POSTED ON kffl.com

Cowboys | Interested in Acquiring Howard? - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:53:14 -0800

Mike Sando, of the Tacoma News Tribune, reports the Dallas Cowboys have expressed interest in acquiring DE Darren Howard from the New Orleans Saints. Howard was designated the Saints\' franchise player this year.

Who Do the Cowgirls have that we want, or when do they pick?

papz · 03-11-2005, 12:06 AM

Honestly if you were to watch Charles Woodson play, he is VASTLY over rated as is Champ Bailey. For the money these guys are making, NO WAY. I rather have Mike and anyone of the free agent corners who will be HALF of what they make a year. No thanks. The thing that is wrong with this league is after you have one or two good seasons and make it to the Probowl, you are pretty much set to go every year no matter how much the regress the year after.

Watch tape and you\'ll see that Rolle, Law, McAllister, and maybe even Trufant are better than Bailey and Woodson. Bailey chokes in big games and Woodson is flat out

. I\'d even rather have Shawn Springs, Nate Clements, Antoine Winfield, Fred Smooth, Anthony Henry, etc... I can go on and on. The money those two are making is absolutely ridiculous. Way better options out there.

[Edited on 11/3/2005 by papz]

baronm · 03-11-2005, 09:59 AM

I\'d rather trade howard for picks and get carlos rogers in the first round and then grab some linebackers.

saintswhodi · 03-11-2005, 10:02 AM

WD52, Cowboys have 1 first round draft picks. Very interesting for us if they are interested in Howard.

03-10-2005, 10:39 PM	#1
LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	Howard For Woodson I didn't hear it but it all over everywhere that on WWL tonight Hub Arkush form Pro Footbal Weekly said there is a good possibility that the Saints will trade Howard to the Raiders for Woodson. It wouldn't be my choice. I would have Jamie Sharper signed already. But I like it more than doing nothing and paying his salary for 3 DE's. Woodson is wacky and over rated perhaps. Or more, he rates himself higher than he is. And injuries to boot. It would mean signing him for a few years. MacKenzie and he would be a shutdown duo, Smith behind them, wooo. I still dunno if they will ever have to throw if there is no improvement at DT or LB tho. Anyhoo, better to hear that the FO is doing something rather than nothing or more Meier impact players.

03-10-2005, 10:44 PM	#2
CanLoomis Registered Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Metairie Posts: 30	Howard For Woodson Woodson is a big name and would sell tickets, but I don\'t think it\'s the move we need. We need a LB. We need a CB too, but one who is not a distraction and who is injury prone. Keep in mind, Charles is represented by the Poston brothers. They hold out everyone(Orlando Pace, Kellen Winslow, II, etc.). Not really something I think we need to deal with. Too much style and not enough substance IMO. LB-LB-LB-LB-LB-LB-LB!!!!!!!!! :casstet:

03-10-2005, 10:45 PM	#3
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Howard For Woodson Bad move IMO. If we need a corner, get Dyson. Use Howard to get a pick. Plus Woodson wants mega money. Isn\'t his agents the Postons? Worst agents to deal with in the league. Terrible terrible move if true.

03-10-2005, 10:56 PM	#4
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	Howard For Woodson I think Oakland will likely resign him...I hope the team isn\'t dumb enough to let Howard go for Woodson alone..we\'d better get a few picks from the deal too... There have been reports, most recently in USA Today on Friday, that the team has offered a deal that includes a $20 million signing bonus. But no one here is quite sure where that figure came from, since the Raiders haven\'t copped to making any offer, and Woodson\'s agent, Carl Poston, hasn\'t returned numerous calls. Hence, the hang-up, which began when Woodson stayed away from May\'s first mandatory minicamp. The good news for Raiders fans? It\'s not like the team and Poston aren\'t in contact. \"Oh, we\'ve talked,\" Raiders player personnel chief and lead contract man Mike Lombardi said Saturday afternoon. But, Lombardi added, \"There is nothing new.\" And there likely will not be for another 3 1/2 weeks or so. As long as Woodson accepts the tender offer and reports to work before the 53-man regular-season roster is set by Sept. 5, it will be as if he never was gone. That\'s because first-year Raiders coach Norv Turner, who said he last talked to Woodson during the week of July 26, has made clear that the starting left cornerback position is waiting for him whenever he decides to come back - today, the end of training camp, even into the season. [Edited on 11/3/2005 by shadowdrinker]
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03-10-2005, 10:58 PM	#5
shadowdrinker Banned Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 517	Howard For Woodson I got that from an Oakland fan forum...the link is from www.sacbee.com..but..it wouldn\'t let me post the link...
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03-10-2005, 11:51 PM	#6
bayouking318 100th Post Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 209	Howard For Woodson i like woodson but I hope this trade don\'t happen. I can\'t think of one reciever in our division that warrant us being put in a cap hole for signing a high price corner.

03-10-2005, 11:54 PM	#7
WD52 Registered Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 80	Howard For Woodson POSTED ON kffl.com Cowboys \| Interested in Acquiring Howard? - from www.KFFL.com Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:53:14 -0800 Mike Sando, of the Tacoma News Tribune, reports the Dallas Cowboys have expressed interest in acquiring DE Darren Howard from the New Orleans Saints. Howard was designated the Saints\' franchise player this year. Who Do the Cowgirls have that we want, or when do they pick?
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03-11-2005, 12:06 AM	#8
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,744	Howard For Woodson Honestly if you were to watch Charles Woodson play, he is VASTLY over rated as is Champ Bailey. For the money these guys are making, NO WAY. I rather have Mike and anyone of the free agent corners who will be HALF of what they make a year. No thanks. The thing that is wrong with this league is after you have one or two good seasons and make it to the Probowl, you are pretty much set to go every year no matter how much the regress the year after. Watch tape and you\'ll see that Rolle, Law, McAllister, and maybe even Trufant are better than Bailey and Woodson. Bailey chokes in big games and Woodson is flat out . I\'d even rather have Shawn Springs, Nate Clements, Antoine Winfield, Fred Smooth, Anthony Henry, etc... I can go on and on. The money those two are making is absolutely ridiculous. Way better options out there. [Edited on 11/3/2005 by papz]
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03-11-2005, 09:59 AM	#9
baronm 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 954	Howard For Woodson I\'d rather trade howard for picks and get carlos rogers in the first round and then grab some linebackers.
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03-11-2005, 10:02 AM	#10
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Howard For Woodson WD52, Cowboys have 1 first round draft picks. Very interesting for us if they are interested in Howard.