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hagan714 10-18-2016 04:39 PM

New Orleans Saints Are Wasting the End of Drew Brees' HOF Career
 
New Orleans Saints Are Wasting the End of Drew Brees' HOF Career

By Sean Tomlinson , NFL Analyst Oct 18, 2016

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There will be a midsummer night sometime in the future when Drew Brees steps up to a podium in Canton, Ohio, and slips on his gold jacket for the first time.

His inclusion in the Pro Football Hall of Fame is a mere matter of waiting. The first wait is simply for his career to end, and the 37-year-old has bounced back nicely from a poor season by his high standards in 2014. Now he’s not showing any sign of slowing despite the forever-ticking age clock.
The second wait will be whether he enters on the first ballot. That’s a conversation for another time, and for now let’s make the safe assumption that Brees will be staring back at a replica of his face one day.

When that day comes we’ll remember his greatness, and more specifically the offensive fireworks he produced through pinpoint deep passing. We’ll still be awestruck by the ballooning passing numbers he pumped out, which now includes his membership in a unique club, as noted by SportsCenter:

But we’ll look back with regret, too. That feeling is growing with each wasted season.


The Saints have been blessed with a passer who’s among the best in his era at the most challenging position in football. And yet, due to circumstances out of the quarterback's control, they've made the playoffs just five times during Brees’ 10 full seasons in New Orleans.


Even worse, as the prime of his career winds down the Saints have missed the postseason in three of the past four years. And 2016 isn’t exactly off to a promising start with the Saints sporting a 2-3 record after Week 6.
The Saints are traveling down a familiar road again, one that ends with another lost season even as a masterful passer keeps catapulting his darts to every area of the field.


The darkness closes in further when we compare Brees to the few peers on his level. Peyton Manning is in the early days of his retirement, and the Indianapolis Colts missed the playoffs just twice during his 13 years there. The New England Patriots have been consistent contenders with Tom Brady as their quarterback, whiffing on the postseason only once during his 15 years under center (excluding 2008 when he played one game).


New Orleans Saints Are Wasting the End of Drew Brees' HOF Career | Bleacher Report

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Danno 10-18-2016 04:47 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Are Wasting the End of Drew Brees' HOF Career
 
We are not wasting it. He could have signed elsewhere if he wanted. He wanted to stay here and we're as competitive as anyone else in the league.

How exactly are the Saints wasting his career? We max out the cap every year trying to add talent to this team, especially on defense.

Pretty weak article.

ctsaint01 10-18-2016 05:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 723974)
...How exactly are the Saints wasting his career? We max out the cap every year trying to add talent to this team, especially on defense.

Pretty weak article.

I didn't read this article, but the "We're wasting Drew's best years away" discussions I've come across are blamed mostly on the misses on FAs and draft selections as the reason(s) for such articles/threads.

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Papa Voodoo 10-18-2016 05:14 PM

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Does it even mention decimation of the D by injury? Lewis and Breaux never happened. Rankins has not played...on and on

AsylumGuido 10-18-2016 05:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 723978)
Does it even mention decimation of the D by injury? Lewis and Breaux never happened. Rankins has not played...on and on

The dumbass "author" is from Canada and doesn't have a clue about American football.

SaintsBro 10-18-2016 05:23 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Are Wasting the End of Drew Brees' HOF Career
 
Look, it's not a bad point he's making in the article, it just may not be popular with some here. Drew is scoring an incredible 31 points a week, but the defense is giving up 33. News flash, that's not good! You may not like to hear it, but Drew will go down in the history books as the great quarterback who played offense with the WORST DEFENSE IN NFL HISTORY (2012 under Spags) and several other Saints defensive units since then (2014, 2015) have been statistically hovering pretty dangerously close to that legendary marker.

We may not like it, but it's certainly a viewpoint. All the guy really says in the article, is that the team is not winning a lot, and the defense is largely to blame for that. Are people here really disagreeing with that?

bobdog86 10-18-2016 08:57 PM

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Nothing to see here, move on...weak in my opinion. Really doesn't matter where you play, winning is no guarantee any where. It is what it is...it's happened to many, many players

The Dude 10-18-2016 09:25 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Are Wasting the End of Drew Brees' HOF Career
 
If he thought he could do better somewhere else he would go. With him at the heart even a decent defense would put us in the NFC game just about every year. When everything goes south it is usually the defenses fault but it's not like they haven't tried to improve on defense.

WhoDat!656 10-19-2016 01:08 AM

Re: New Orleans Saints Are Wasting the End of Drew Brees' HOF Career
 
Are the Packers wasting Rodgers career? Look at how long Carson Palmer played in Cincinnati!

The Saints could have traded/released Brees to go younger at QB and free up cap room, and Brees could have ended up with the Jets, Browns, Bills, etc. What would THAT have done for his career?

Like the old saying goes; "If if was a fifth we'd all be drunk!"

If the Saints hadn't wasted money on players that weren't worth it, Byrd, Gallette, et al maybe the Saints and Brees would have another Super Bowl ring.

If in 2011 Gregg Williams had played zone in the NFC Divisional playoffs against the 40-whiners, Alex Smith doesn't have time to drive down the field and throw a game-winning TD.

If the coaching staff had heeded the league's warning about the Saints 'bounty' program, SP wouldn't have been suspended and who knows how that season would have played out.

When I saw Bleacher Report in the link I knew it was a garbage article.

hagan714 10-19-2016 06:10 AM

Re: New Orleans Saints Are Wasting the End of Drew Brees' HOF Career
 
Defense is legit but my number 1 issue is with the games the saints have played over the years with the OL.

This off season FA money should go to signing a young proven committee or two on the OL and stop screwing around.

I will say it again. As Drew goes so do the saints.

Mardigras9 10-19-2016 09:28 AM

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It would seem that if we could just get a mid-level defense, we would be in the talks every year. Injuries, poor decisions, busts, we just haven't been as lucky on that side of the ball.

SapperSaint 10-19-2016 12:31 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Are Wasting the End of Drew Brees' HOF Career
 
I'm a little surprised that some are so dismissive about this article.

Drew isn't getting younger. Our Defense isn't really getting better. Time is the one adversary none of us can beat. If you don't think that Drews time with the Saints is nearing its end, you might be a little crazy. When the game clock reads 00:00; we are that much closer to Drews last game with the Saints.

Yes, we are wasting valuable time that Drew has to give to us. When your QB throws 3-4-5 TD's a game, odds are you should win. Our defense works about as good as a screen door being used to dam up a river of diarrhea.

With that said; We are not wasting Drew's ability. We are wasting the ability he is giving us. Drew's going to continue to put up record-book numbers. However, when you have a abortion for a defense, you are giving "W's" away. Giving playoff chances away. Giving SB rings away.

Tick. Tick, Tick. Tick, TICK!

Rugby Saint II 10-19-2016 12:34 PM

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Unfortunately for Drew we can't field a good defense. That falls directly on the man running the franchise. Is that Payton or Loomis? One of them is in charge. We all know it's Payton.

Payton can't evaluate defense worth a damn but he feels like he needs to tinker with the defense non stop. There have been multiple reasons for not making the playoffs. Injuries, bad free agent signings, dead money, poor drafting and bad coaching(to name a few) have kept he Saints from letting Drew Brees from achieving his potential.

I put the blame squarely on Payton for being stubborn and not getting someone in here sooner like Ireland with a defensive eye for talent. Loomis does need someone in house who can reign in Payton and his wild tendencies to gamble in the draft and free agency.

RockyMountainSaint 10-19-2016 08:56 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Are Wasting the End of Drew Brees' HOF Career
 
31 teams end every season not being SB Champions.
There is no magic bullet to solving the riddle.
The Pats are a Unicorn in this league.
If it were so easy to figure out and emulate?
They wouldn't be discussed as such.
I don't have all of the answers.
No one does.
Drew believes in what he is doing.
Who are we to question it.
He would get paid either way.

darstep 10-20-2016 01:57 AM

Re: New Orleans Saints Are Wasting the End of Drew Brees' HOF Career
 
Waste? As if the plan is to give up 33 every week.
We've been better on offense than defense since Payton/Brees showed up.
We buy new tires every year and it just has not worked out.
New coaches, new players, veterans, rookies, waiver wire, you name it...
When the defense played well, we did well (ie Vilma and company).
Lots of struggles on the D-side of the ball.
Injuries, bad decisions - most of those were after the fact bad.
They weren't bad until the performance didn't meet the expectation.
It's only a waste if you are not trying.
They've been trying. Just hasn't worked out.
Lots of things have to go right - it only takes one thing to go wrong.

QBREES9 10-21-2016 12:47 AM

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If we only had a Defense, Defense, Defense. i dream we had a Defense.

Euphoria 10-21-2016 09:11 AM

Re: New Orleans Saints Are Wasting the End of Drew Brees' HOF Career
 
Well I personally think we have been wasting him.

With many teams in need of a QB to take them to the next level... we have that QB but we have nothing to support him or take us to the next level. I get it, teams go thought a process and rebuild but you have to look at the Patriots who continue to make the play offs and constantly provide a winning product no matter who is at QB. If Brees goes down our season is lost we might as well start taking draft.

Yeah we are wasting him.

|Mitch| 10-21-2016 10:03 AM

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There are 31 teams every year that have wasted a year or their QB's career... Hindsight is always 20/20 when talking personnel decisions and no one is to blame when injuries happen. :doh:

Euphoria 10-21-2016 11:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 724136)
There are 31 teams every year that have wasted a year or their QB's career... Hindsight is always 20/20 when talking personnel decisions and no one is to blame when injuries happen. :doh:

I think you are missing the point.

Its about HOF QB's. If you look at teams with a potential HOF QB's with a ring they are all above .500. More than likely will make the playoffs. Currently we are below .500 and haven't made the playoffs in a few years. its a valid point. Injuries and suspensions be damned. Pats with out there QB is leading the division and didn't miss a beat. Other teams have injuries... losers have excuses. Winners win.

vpheughan 10-21-2016 04:47 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Are Wasting the End of Drew Brees' HOF Career
 
The Bears need a QB. Let's really waste him and trade him there!

ctsaint01 10-23-2016 04:45 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Are Wasting the End of Drew Brees' HOF Career
 
Is this a good time to bring this up?

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NOLA54 10-23-2016 04:49 PM

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That goes without saying....sorry Drew.

Danno 10-23-2016 05:07 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Are Wasting the End of Drew Brees' HOF Career
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ctsaint01 (Post 724482)
Is this a good time to bring this up?

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Bring what up?

AsylumGuido 10-23-2016 05:10 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Are Wasting the End of Drew Brees' HOF Career
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 724493)
Bring what up?

The negative crap. The whining. The woe be me attitude.

exiled 10-23-2016 06:27 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Are Wasting the End of Drew Brees' HOF Career
 
Look at what Unitas did in SD... Or what Archie did for the Oilers or Vikings... Sorry pal, ya got stuck with us... But personally I would rather be a first ballot HOF with a one time SB MVP w a **** ton of personal stats that helped rebuild a city ... than pretty much any other legacy in the history of the NFL... Time will be good on you Drew Bree's... I, for one, am glad you are here...

RailBoss 10-24-2016 05:04 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Are Wasting the End of Drew Brees' HOF Career
 
I'm thinking Drew wound up here by divine intervention. Or some may believe Karma got him here. I will tell you that every game I watch him
play for the Saints has been awesome. History will write it many ways
I guess but he sure brought a lot of believers to this town.

Danno 10-24-2016 05:31 PM

Re: New Orleans Saints Are Wasting the End of Drew Brees' HOF Career
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 724495)
The negative crap. The whining. The woe be me attitude.

I've noticed it too AG. Its not just legitimate criticism, its way over the top negativity. I have also decided to post less due to the childish whiny ass we suck posts.

This site is becoming porno for pessimists.

RailBoss 10-24-2016 07:48 PM

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"This site is becoming porno for pessimists."

Now that's pretty freaking funny.


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