Zach Strief ranks among league's best tackles

VegasSaint9 · 10-21-2016, 07:14 PM

7th seems awfully high. Credit where its due, but I think Drew's pocket mobility really makes the O-line look better than it is. Stiref may not give up a lot of sacks/pressure according to PFF but it seems when Drew gets those punishing hits its from Striefs side.

spkb25 · 10-21-2016, 07:17 PM

well first of all I think every single fan had a right to be concerned about the offensive line heading into this season, they were abysmal in preseason and weren't too great last year either. Had it not been for resigning Jhari, not something we wanted to do, and Peat moving to the left and looking very good, I have no doubt the oline would have been a disaster this season. We got fortunate those two things have paid off the way they did. That and brees doesn't hold the ball long.

Let's be careful throwing stones.

Nice to see your back Asylum, seems like you went MIA as soon as the team dropped their third loss. Us real fans were still here.

AsylumGuido · 10-21-2016, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

well first of all I think every single fan had a right to be concerned about the offensive line heading into this season, they were abysmal in preseason and weren't too great last year either. Had it not been for resigning Jhari, not something we wanted to do, and Peat moving to the left and looking very good, I have no doubt the oline would have been a disaster this season. We got fortunate those two things have paid off the way they did. That and brees doesn't hold the ball long.

Let's be careful throwing stones.

Nice to see your back Asylum, seems like you went MIA as soon as the team dropped their third loss. Us real fans were still here.

No, spkb, you are WAY off base there. I stopped posting regularly because of the idiots that took over every thread with their doomsday candor. I was here every day just as I have been for years and years.

rezburna · 10-21-2016, 09:07 PM

I haven't had many complaints of him this year. I'm definitely a detractor of Strief. I still don't trust him at RT. Idk how PFF does these rankings, but like I said, I haven't had much to say about him this year. No news is good news I suppose.

burningmetal · 10-21-2016, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Which rating sites do think are better?

I don't pay attention to any of them. PFF is constantly posted on here. Perhaps there are others just as dumb, but I haven't heard of any. I have watched this guy with my own eyes for years just like everyone else. The play on the field never matches what PFF says.

skymike · 10-21-2016, 10:33 PM

First thing I noticed from Game One was the improvement on the O-Line.
Brees spends much of the game upright, and no, its not just quick patterns.
Brandon Cooks would tell you otherwise.

Count me as one of the Doomsayers... I thought the Line looked horrific in
preseason, and I didnt expect Brees to be among the living at this point.
Im happy to be wrong.

Im a fan of Strief.

jeanpierre · 10-22-2016, 06:55 AM

Strief gets exposed against 3-4 defenses with good OLBers (e.g. Ahmad Brooks, Khalil Mack, Von Miller, Nate Orchard) or against rare 4-3 DE (e.g. J.J. Watt); then again, most OTs struggle against those guys anyways...

Big Country is also very limited in space, slow/late on screen blocks; and it's ugly - like Jake Taylor (Tom Berenger) bunting, running to 1st base in Major League bad...

But the guy keeps Brees clean, is solid in the power run game (yeah, when that's used); so for a seventh rounder, minimal cap compensation - Strief gets a thumbs way up...

As for his detractors, it's real simple, until someone can win the job away from him...

hagan714 · 10-22-2016, 10:06 AM

I am a huge Zach fan but speed does kill.

My number one concern about Zach is what will or better yet who will replace him. There is no one in the wings to back him up.

I push for a youth movement on the right side but in no way do I think Zach should be let go. He is a lunch and pail role model for any young pup. Plus having his swing skill set on a back up role for a few more years

peat needs to step up or we look else where

blackangold · 10-22-2016, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No, spkb, you are WAY off base there. I stopped posting regularly because of the idiots that took over every thread with their doomsday candor. I was here every day just as I have been for years and years.

You stopped posting because we started 0-3. The rest of us stayed around and kept talking about saints ball.

Needless to say I'm not shocked that your back, and talking **** after we won 2 in a row...

AsylumGuido · 10-22-2016, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

You stopped posting because we started 0-3. The rest of us stayed around and kept talking about saints ball.

Needless to say I'm not shocked that your back, and talking **** after we won 2 in a row...

Sorry, but you are wrong. The Saints winning or losing has ZERO affect on my activity here. The negativity that was ruining every thread on the forum from a handful of members made me bite my tongue. I even PM'd Halo explaining my upcoming lack of posting. What is more telling is that once the Saints started winning that crap suddenly slowed WAY down. Some members seems to thrive on Saints losing, but have little to add when they are winning. I have been here reading the forum every day, just as I have for many years. I simply refused to address the loser attitude.

10-21-2016, 07:14 PM	#11
VegasSaint9 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 360	Re: Zach Strief ranks among league's best tackles 7th seems awfully high. Credit where its due, but I think Drew's pocket mobility really makes the O-line look better than it is. Stiref may not give up a lot of sacks/pressure according to PFF but it seems when Drew gets those punishing hits its from Striefs side.

10-21-2016, 07:17 PM	#12
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Zach Strief ranks among league's best tackles well first of all I think every single fan had a right to be concerned about the offensive line heading into this season, they were abysmal in preseason and weren't too great last year either. Had it not been for resigning Jhari, not something we wanted to do, and Peat moving to the left and looking very good, I have no doubt the oline would have been a disaster this season. We got fortunate those two things have paid off the way they did. That and brees doesn't hold the ball long. Let's be careful throwing stones. Nice to see your back Asylum, seems like you went MIA as soon as the team dropped their third loss. Us real fans were still here.
	Your team stinks

10-21-2016, 07:34 PM	#13
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,208	Re: Zach Strief ranks among league's best tackles Originally Posted by spkb25 well first of all I think every single fan had a right to be concerned about the offensive line heading into this season, they were abysmal in preseason and weren't too great last year either. Had it not been for resigning Jhari, not something we wanted to do, and Peat moving to the left and looking very good, I have no doubt the oline would have been a disaster this season. We got fortunate those two things have paid off the way they did. That and brees doesn't hold the ball long. Let's be careful throwing stones. Nice to see your back Asylum, seems like you went MIA as soon as the team dropped their third loss. Us real fans were still here. No, spkb, you are WAY off base there. I stopped posting regularly because of the idiots that took over every thread with their doomsday candor. I was here every day just as I have been for years and years. Danno likes this.

10-21-2016, 09:07 PM	#14
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Zach Strief ranks among league's best tackles I haven't had many complaints of him this year. I'm definitely a detractor of Strief. I still don't trust him at RT. Idk how PFF does these rankings, but like I said, I haven't had much to say about him this year. No news is good news I suppose.

10-21-2016, 09:22 PM	#15
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Zach Strief ranks among league's best tackles Originally Posted by Danno Which rating sites do think are better? I don't pay attention to any of them. PFF is constantly posted on here. Perhaps there are others just as dumb, but I haven't heard of any. I have watched this guy with my own eyes for years just like everyone else. The play on the field never matches what PFF says. K Major likes this.

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10-21-2016, 10:33 PM	#16
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Zach Strief ranks among league's best tackles First thing I noticed from Game One was the improvement on the O-Line. Brees spends much of the game upright, and no, its not just quick patterns. Brandon Cooks would tell you otherwise. Count me as one of the Doomsayers... I thought the Line looked horrific in preseason, and I didnt expect Brees to be among the living at this point. Im happy to be wrong. Im a fan of Strief.

10-22-2016, 06:55 AM	#17
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Zach Strief ranks among league's best tackles Strief gets exposed against 3-4 defenses with good OLBers (e.g. Ahmad Brooks, Khalil Mack, Von Miller, Nate Orchard) or against rare 4-3 DE (e.g. J.J. Watt); then again, most OTs struggle against those guys anyways... Big Country is also very limited in space, slow/late on screen blocks; and it's ugly - like Jake Taylor (Tom Berenger) bunting, running to 1st base in Major League bad... But the guy keeps Brees clean, is solid in the power run game (yeah, when that's used); so for a seventh rounder, minimal cap compensation - Strief gets a thumbs way up... As for his detractors, it's real simple, until someone can win the job away from him...
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10-22-2016, 10:06 AM	#18
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Zach Strief ranks among league's best tackles I am a huge Zach fan but speed does kill. My number one concern about Zach is what will or better yet who will replace him. There is no one in the wings to back him up. I push for a youth movement on the right side but in no way do I think Zach should be let go. He is a lunch and pail role model for any young pup. Plus having his swing skill set on a back up role for a few more years peat needs to step up or we look else where jeanpierre likes this.

10-22-2016, 11:14 AM	#19
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Zach Strief ranks among league's best tackles Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No, spkb, you are WAY off base there. I stopped posting regularly because of the idiots that took over every thread with their doomsday candor. I was here every day just as I have been for years and years. You stopped posting because we started 0-3. The rest of us stayed around and kept talking about saints ball. Needless to say I'm not shocked that your back, and talking **** after we won 2 in a row... spkb25 and jeanpierre like this.

10-22-2016, 01:59 PM	#20
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,208	Re: Zach Strief ranks among league's best tackles Originally Posted by blackangold You stopped posting because we started 0-3. The rest of us stayed around and kept talking about saints ball. Needless to say I'm not shocked that your back, and talking **** after we won 2 in a row... Sorry, but you are wrong. The Saints winning or losing has ZERO affect on my activity here. The negativity that was ruining every thread on the forum from a handful of members made me bite my tongue. I even PM'd Halo explaining my upcoming lack of posting. What is more telling is that once the Saints started winning that crap suddenly slowed WAY down. Some members seems to thrive on Saints losing, but have little to add when they are winning. I have been here reading the forum every day, just as I have for many years. I simply refused to address the loser attitude.
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