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lumm0x 10-25-2016 09:53 AM
Re: Did Saints Safety Kenny Vaccaro “Call Out” Jairus Byrd After K.C. Loss?
 
We are better off with Vaccaro and Bell playing safety position. Byrd was a huge bust at FA obviously. He is pulling a Browner and just cashing a cheque. I like that KV is stepping into faces and manning up. We need to build around that leadership and not run it away.

jeanpierre 10-25-2016 10:44 AM
Re: Did Saints Safety Kenny Vaccaro “Call Out” Jairus Byrd After K.C. Loss?
 
Good for Vaccaro, really glad to see him come into his own not only as a player, but defensive leader...

Byrd has been as bad for this team as Galette was - ship him out now, with a 2017 4th round pick if necessary...

If you can get rid of Westbank for not being available, not embracing the team, not going along to get along then...

You need to move guys like Byrd, Ellerbe, hell, even Cam Jordan, if they're not giving, earning their value...

K Major 10-25-2016 10:57 AM
Re: Did Saints Safety Kenny Vaccaro “Call Out” Jairus Byrd After K.C. Loss?
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 724747)

You need to move guys like Byrd, Ellerbe, hell, even Cam Jordan, if they're giving their value...
He certainly has performed poorly. Devante' (Falcons) abused him in the open field and the Ware (KC) mis tackle was equally bad.

Chalk it up as a failed experiment ... expensive one at that.

Rell&Gold 10-25-2016 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 724719)
Not really sure what the deal is with Byrd, but it is fairly obvious he is not playing well. Is he being used properly, did he ever fully recover from all the injuries? KV calling him out, is that an indication maybe he isn't putting forth full effort? Problem is right now whatever the issue(s) is, the Saints are stuck. Vonn Bell started a couple weeks back and looked even worse...
There's no way in HELL Von Bell looked worse than Byrd he would have to done Absolute zero nada on the field to be worse

Rell&Gold 10-25-2016 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 724723)
I said it when we signed him and I will say it again. Kenny is not the SS the saints need to team with Byrd. Neither are any of the other SS on the roster. A younger Harper would have worked probably

Saints once again signed a player that over the years they did not get a player to maximize their investment
What kind of Safety is that? Harper was more LB than Safety

dizzle88 10-25-2016 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 724766)
There's no way in HELL Von Bell looked worse than Byrd he would have to done Absolute zero nada on the field to be worse
I hope it's just growing pains but in the carolina game, Vonn Bell completely ignored an overthrown ball to go and hit a receiver, that is why we don't force turnovers, because our guys are dumb!

CharityMike 10-25-2016 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 724780)
I hope it's just growing pains but in the carolina game, Vonn Bell completely ignored an overthrown ball to go and hit a receiver, that is why we don't force turnovers, because our guys are dumb!
I can't disagree with this. It didn't happen in the KC game but in previous games, if you are a DB running with a receiver or behind the receiver and you are looking RIGHT at the receiver and all of a sudden you are about to run him over, wouldn't you think to look for the ball? No..not our guys, we run the receiver over instead.

And just because its the way things go when you are not very good, In the KC game, Crawley finally looked for the ball and got the fumble feet and fell over and let the receiver catch the ball anyway.

I understand these guys are backups, but ffs, do you not learn how to play the football?

dizzle88 10-25-2016 05:44 PM
Re: Did Saints Safety Kenny Vaccaro “Call Out” Jairus Byrd After K.C. Loss?
 
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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 724790)
I can't disagree with this. It didn't happen in the KC game but in previous games, if you are a DB running with a receiver or behind the receiver and you are looking RIGHT at the receiver and all of a sudden you are about to run him over, wouldn't you think to look for the ball? No..not our guys, we run the receiver over instead.

And just because its the way things go when you are not very good, In the KC game, Crawley finally looked for the ball and got the fumble feet and fell over and let the receiver catch the ball anyway.

I understand these guys are backups, but ffs, do you not learn how to play the football?
Also, the play I mentioned above I watched it over and over, after the play Vaccaro literally stands infront of Bell with his hands up like "what the f*** are you doing, why not intercept the pass??"

Vaccaro looked visibly annoyed, to me he is the only guy playing with any passion at all.

WillSaints81 10-26-2016 03:11 PM
Re: Did Saints Safety Kenny Vaccaro “Call Out” Jairus Byrd After K.C. Loss?
 
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Originally Posted by darksoul35 (Post 724726)
I played him too but still lost fan duel.
He wasn't the big play. It was AJ Green.

WillSaints81 10-26-2016 03:14 PM
Re: Did Saints Safety Kenny Vaccaro “Call Out” Jairus Byrd After K.C. Loss?
 
Vacarro though isn't exactly creating turnovers himself. He may be doing all the other things well but not that.


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