Did Fairly cost us the game?

RockyMountainSaint · 10-24-2016, 08:18 PM

His loss of compose at that late point in the game puts it into a bubble.
It did hurt in that bubble.
Many mistakes were made with much more time on the game clock.
His is one of many mistakes that contributed to the loss.
A dumb play always looks much worse in the latter portion of any game.
Also, I will go on the record as not blaming Ingram's fumble on him.
That was a one in a million shot that the KC dude had at a play and he made it.
There are many turning points in every game.
His was one that is put under a microscope because of the timing of it.
I won a bet with my 20 yo son that Drew would have a pick6 on Sunday.
You can argue whether it was all on Drew, but it does seem to happen to him more than other QBs.
Cest la vie.
We lost the game.
SUNSHINE!!!
Edit: Also, who knows if Ware said something about his mother that set Fairley off.

The Dude · 10-24-2016, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

His loss of compose at that late point in the game puts it into a bubble.
It did hurt in that bubble.
Many mistakes were made with much more time on the game clock.
His is one of many mistakes that contributed to the loss.
A dumb play always looks much worse in the latter portion of any game.
Also, I will go on the record as not blaming Ingram's fumble on him.
That was a one in a million shot that the KC dude had at a play and he made it.
There are many turning points in every game.
His was one that is put under a microscope because of the timing of it.
I won a bet with my 20 yo son that Drew would have a pick6 on Sunday.
You can argue whether it was all on Drew, but it does seem to happen to him more than other QBs.
Cest la vie.
We lost the game.
SUNSHINE!!!
Edit: Also, who knows if Ware said something about his mother that set Fairley off.

Where do you see that Brees has more interceptions than most other Qbs? He doesn't, and when you have a pass first team that has to play from behind all the time and racks up 400 plus yards games regularly interceptions are going to happen. It may seem like it happens more to Brees but Brees throws way more than most other QBs in the league. It's math.

RockyMountainSaint · 10-24-2016, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Where do you see that Brees has more interceptions than most other Qbs? He doesn't, and when you have a pass first team that has to play from behind all the time and racks up 400 plus yards games regularly interceptions are going to happen. It may seem like it happens more to Brees but Brees throws way more than most other QBs in the league. It's math.

I was pointing specifically to pick6s.
Also, Drew's ints on the road.
I don't know if pick6s are a stat that is tracked.
I do know what my eyes have shown me.
Drew has thrown an inordinate number of pick6s compared to other "elite" QBs over the years.
Drew has a history of pressing when the team falls behind and sometimes makes the situation worse.
He is also not nearly as efficient on the road.
These reasons are why he has never won an MVP Award.
I love Drew and I am so happy he has been our QB.
But!
I 100% believe that I am correct in what I am saying about him.

Utah_Saint · 10-25-2016, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

I was pointing specifically to pick6s.
Also, Drew's ints on the road.
I don't know if pick6s are a stat that is tracked.
I do know what my eyes have shown me.
Drew has thrown an inordinate number of pick6s compared to other "elite" QBs over the years.
Drew has a history of pressing when the team falls behind and sometimes makes the situation worse.
He is also not nearly as efficient on the road.
These reasons are why he has never won an MVP Award.
I love Drew and I am so happy he has been our QB.
But!
I 100% believe that I am correct in what I am saying about him.

Drew has thrown a lot of pick 6's but that's because he throws the ball a lot.

There's a chart on this page that shows QBs pick 6's over their career as of 2013.

Most Pick Sixes Thrown in NFL History

Drew's % of pick 6's per pass thrown, is about average at .28%.

Both Archie Manning, .29% and Bobby Hebert, .35% have higher pick 6's per pass thrown than Drew.

This data is 2 1/2 years old so the numbers will be a little off but the percentages are probably still pretty close.

Crusader · 10-25-2016, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

Drew has thrown a lot of pick 6's but that's because he throws the ball a lot.

There's a chart on this page that shows QBs pick 6's over their career as of 2013.

Most Pick Sixes Thrown in NFL History

Drew's % of pick 6's per pass thrown, is about average at .28%.

Both Archie Manning, .29% and Bobby Hebert, .35% have higher pick 6's per pass thrown than Drew.

This data is 2 1/2 years old so the numbers will be a little off but the percentages are probably still pretty close.

Interesting to see that Brees and Peyton Manning has the same average.

dizzle88 · 10-25-2016, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

I was pointing specifically to pick6s.
Also, Drew's ints on the road.
I don't know if pick6s are a stat that is tracked.
I do know what my eyes have shown me.
Drew has thrown an inordinate number of pick6s compared to other "elite" QBs over the years.
Drew has a history of pressing when the team falls behind and sometimes makes the situation worse.
He is also not nearly as efficient on the road.
These reasons are why he has never won an MVP Award.
I love Drew and I am so happy he has been our QB.
But!
I 100% believe that I am correct in what I am saying about him.

He is an incredible QB and I'm glad we've still got him but you are correct, he is a different player on the road.

He tends to press more and throw risky passes, another thing I've noticed he does on the road is lose sight of the play clock. I'm not talking one or two times, you see him panic when he realises its at 2 seconds and he's still changing the play.

The pick sixes could be a number of reasons, could be that all of our backs and receivers are down field so no one is back to make the tackle. Just like that Deion Jones pick 6 Brees threw.

10-24-2016, 08:18 PM	#1
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: Did Fairly cost us the game? His loss of compose at that late point in the game puts it into a bubble. It did hurt in that bubble. Many mistakes were made with much more time on the game clock. His is one of many mistakes that contributed to the loss. A dumb play always looks much worse in the latter portion of any game. Also, I will go on the record as not blaming Ingram's fumble on him. That was a one in a million shot that the KC dude had at a play and he made it. There are many turning points in every game. His was one that is put under a microscope because of the timing of it. I won a bet with my 20 yo son that Drew would have a pick6 on Sunday. You can argue whether it was all on Drew, but it does seem to happen to him more than other QBs. Cest la vie. We lost the game. SUNSHINE!!! Edit: Also, who knows if Ware said something about his mother that set Fairley off.
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10-24-2016, 10:19 PM	#2
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Did Fairly cost us the game? Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint His loss of compose at that late point in the game puts it into a bubble. It did hurt in that bubble. Many mistakes were made with much more time on the game clock. His is one of many mistakes that contributed to the loss. A dumb play always looks much worse in the latter portion of any game. Also, I will go on the record as not blaming Ingram's fumble on him. That was a one in a million shot that the KC dude had at a play and he made it. There are many turning points in every game. His was one that is put under a microscope because of the timing of it. I won a bet with my 20 yo son that Drew would have a pick6 on Sunday. You can argue whether it was all on Drew, but it does seem to happen to him more than other QBs. Cest la vie. We lost the game. SUNSHINE!!! Edit: Also, who knows if Ware said something about his mother that set Fairley off. Where do you see that Brees has more interceptions than most other Qbs? He doesn't, and when you have a pass first team that has to play from behind all the time and racks up 400 plus yards games regularly interceptions are going to happen. It may seem like it happens more to Brees but Brees throws way more than most other QBs in the league. It's math.
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10-24-2016, 11:38 PM	#3
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: Did Fairly cost us the game? Originally Posted by The Dude Where do you see that Brees has more interceptions than most other Qbs? He doesn't, and when you have a pass first team that has to play from behind all the time and racks up 400 plus yards games regularly interceptions are going to happen. It may seem like it happens more to Brees but Brees throws way more than most other QBs in the league. It's math. I was pointing specifically to pick6s. Also, Drew's ints on the road. I don't know if pick6s are a stat that is tracked. I do know what my eyes have shown me. Drew has thrown an inordinate number of pick6s compared to other "elite" QBs over the years. Drew has a history of pressing when the team falls behind and sometimes makes the situation worse. He is also not nearly as efficient on the road. These reasons are why he has never won an MVP Award. I love Drew and I am so happy he has been our QB. But! I 100% believe that I am correct in what I am saying about him.
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10-25-2016, 12:09 AM	#4
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Did Fairly cost us the game? Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint I was pointing specifically to pick6s. Also, Drew's ints on the road. I don't know if pick6s are a stat that is tracked. I do know what my eyes have shown me. Drew has thrown an inordinate number of pick6s compared to other "elite" QBs over the years. Drew has a history of pressing when the team falls behind and sometimes makes the situation worse. He is also not nearly as efficient on the road. These reasons are why he has never won an MVP Award. I love Drew and I am so happy he has been our QB. But! I 100% believe that I am correct in what I am saying about him. Drew has thrown a lot of pick 6's but that's because he throws the ball a lot. There's a chart on this page that shows QBs pick 6's over their career as of 2013. Most Pick Sixes Thrown in NFL History Drew's % of pick 6's per pass thrown, is about average at .28%. Both Archie Manning, .29% and Bobby Hebert, .35% have higher pick 6's per pass thrown than Drew. This data is 2 1/2 years old so the numbers will be a little off but the percentages are probably still pretty close.

10-25-2016, 01:42 AM	#5
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,031	Re: Did Fairly cost us the game? Originally Posted by Utah_Saint Drew has thrown a lot of pick 6's but that's because he throws the ball a lot. There's a chart on this page that shows QBs pick 6's over their career as of 2013. Most Pick Sixes Thrown in NFL History Drew's % of pick 6's per pass thrown, is about average at .28%. Both Archie Manning, .29% and Bobby Hebert, .35% have higher pick 6's per pass thrown than Drew. This data is 2 1/2 years old so the numbers will be a little off but the percentages are probably still pretty close. Interesting to see that Brees and Peyton Manning has the same average.

10-25-2016, 12:57 AM	#6
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Did Fairly cost us the game? Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint I was pointing specifically to pick6s. Also, Drew's ints on the road. I don't know if pick6s are a stat that is tracked. I do know what my eyes have shown me. Drew has thrown an inordinate number of pick6s compared to other "elite" QBs over the years. Drew has a history of pressing when the team falls behind and sometimes makes the situation worse. He is also not nearly as efficient on the road. These reasons are why he has never won an MVP Award. I love Drew and I am so happy he has been our QB. But! I 100% believe that I am correct in what I am saying about him. He is an incredible QB and I'm glad we've still got him but you are correct, he is a different player on the road. He tends to press more and throw risky passes, another thing I've noticed he does on the road is lose sight of the play clock. I'm not talking one or two times, you see him panic when he realises its at 2 seconds and he's still changing the play. The pick sixes could be a number of reasons, could be that all of our backs and receivers are down field so no one is back to make the tackle. Just like that Deion Jones pick 6 Brees threw.
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