Saints waive DE Chris McCain

AsylumGuido · 10-25-2016, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

It does amaze me how ignorant the so called experts are on this site

True.

jeanpierre · 10-25-2016, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

So. Your you either have no answer to what you would have personally done different in the Callahan case or are too lazy to do the research of the actual rules involved.

I challenged you first. If you can clearly state your case positively I will address the others.

Afraid or unable?

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Had answered your question "challenge" as to what I would and wouldn't have done, now it is your turn...

Ashley · 10-26-2016, 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

So, you can't come up with any other scenario, right? You can sit back a ***** about moves that are made, but cannot give any reason why you would have done anything differently under the same circumstances. This is your perfect chance to show the world how much better you are at playing GM. Take the entire situation and explain, step by step, adhering to the rules, why your way is better.

Well?

We don't have to that's what they are paid to do. WE are all just fans, that's what we do. ***** when something, or when we don't do anything when "we" as fans think we should. None of us get paid to sit behind a desk and look at film, or what scenario might play out. Fans don't have a full time job to do anything of the sort.
We can just cheer, or *****. Then get on sites like this and throw mud at other fans, because we can't come up with a scenario. Why should we, that's not my job.
I come here to be entertained by dumb ass comments, along with even the smarter ones. Not because I want to pretend that I am a GM. That's not my job nor is it yours.

hagan714 · 10-26-2016, 07:16 AM

Either way all I know is we are second to last now in waiver claims right behind the Browns.

this was a total screw up.

K Major · 10-26-2016, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Either way all I know is we are second to last now in waiver claims right behind the Browns.

this was a total screw up.

Yep. It starts and the top and rolls down hill from there.

AsylumGuido · 10-26-2016, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

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Had answered your question "challenge" as to what I would and wouldn't have done, now it is your turn...

I read the posts. You never stated what you would have done differently with Callahan. All you did was ignore my challenge to tell me exactly what you would have done differently in the case concerning Callahan and posted a list of moves that did not produce as much as one would have wanted and said that YOU wouldn't have done them. That is easy to say now.

Hindsight is 20/20. It is easy for anyone to point out, in a vacuum, that something did not work out optimally.

AsylumGuido · 10-26-2016, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Either way all I know is we are second to last now in waiver claims right behind the Browns.

this was a total screw up.

And why is this such a huge deal? At this time of year nothing of material value hits the wire. But, Callahan WAS a value and that is why the Saints claimed him. What would have been a better value later? How was it a total screw up? But, because of unforeseen injuries the Saints were forced to free another roster spot. There was no other option available but to waive Callahan and hope he cleared so he could then be moved to the practice squad.

It was a good move to claim Callahan in the first place. But, as I have pointed out, not all things go according to plan. The Saints are not alone in that fact. Don't forget that Green Bay had to waive him in the first place because they were dealing with the same sort of roster issues that are plaguing the Saints and many other teams in the NFL.

AsylumGuido · 10-26-2016, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Yep. It starts and the top and rolls down hill from there.

Read what I just posted, K. Where exactly was the supposed screw up? There was none. You are listening to a load of crap and taking it as gospel. What step along that way was a screw up?

Euphoria · 10-26-2016, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It is easy to question within a vacuum when you do not know, nor understand, the variables. Once again, a challenge to see who is smarter than Loomis and Payton on this move. Don't forget, it must fall within all NFL transaction rules which might mean actually reading some of them for a change.

This is what we do here!!!
LOL.

AsylumGuido · 10-26-2016, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Guido...

How about you defend the following moves:

Junior Galette

Jairus Byrd

Brandon Browner

Coby Fleener

Not sure what move you are talking about concerning Galette? There were several events connected to Galette. I certainly wouldn't have signed him to an extension knowing what we all know about him now. I'm sure the Saints front office agrees. Too bad we can't see into the future. Or is it the move of cutting him? While it wasn't all they could have done, it was the best PR move. It resulted in a huge cap hit, but without time travel it was unavoidable.

Seeing the production we have seen out of Byrd I wish that move was never made. It had the potential of being another Darren Sharper sort of impact but didn't pan out. Once again, too bad we can't see into the future.

Ditto with Browner.

As for Fleener, I have absolutely no issue with his acquisition. The jury is still out on that one, but I see the potential for sure.

10-25-2016, 09:18 PM	#21
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints waive DE Chris McCain Originally Posted by Danno It does amaze me how ignorant the so called experts are on this site True.

10-25-2016, 10:36 PM	#22
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints waive DE Chris McCain Originally Posted by AsylumGuido So. Your you either have no answer to what you would have personally done different in the Callahan case or are too lazy to do the research of the actual rules involved. I challenged you first. If you can clearly state your case positively I will address the others. Afraid or unable? R-e-a-d t-h-e p-o-s-t-s S-t-a-t-e-d w-h-a-t I-'-d d-o-n-e d-i-f-f-e-r-e-n-t-l-y Maybe this will help... Literacy Directory Had answered your question "challenge" as to what I would and wouldn't have done, now it is your turn...

10-26-2016, 04:07 AM	#23
Ashley Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Colorado Springs Co Posts: 2,760	Re: Saints waive DE Chris McCain Originally Posted by AsylumGuido So, you can't come up with any other scenario, right? You can sit back a *** about moves that are made, but cannot give any reason why you would have done anything differently under the same circumstances. This is your perfect chance to show the world how much better you are at playing GM. Take the entire situation and explain, step by step, adhering to the rules, why your way is better. Well? We don't have to that's what they are paid to do. WE are all just fans, that's what we do. * when something, or when we don't do anything when "we" as fans think we should. None of us get paid to sit behind a desk and look at film, or what scenario might play out. Fans don't have a full time job to do anything of the sort. We can just cheer, or ***. Then get on sites like this and throw mud at other fans, because we can't come up with a scenario. Why should we, that's not my job. I come here to be entertained by dumb ass comments, along with even the smarter ones. Not because I want to pretend that I am a GM. That's not my job nor is it yours. K Major likes this.
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10-26-2016, 07:16 AM	#24
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints waive DE Chris McCain Either way all I know is we are second to last now in waiver claims right behind the Browns. this was a total screw up. Ashley, jeanpierre and K Major like this.

10-26-2016, 08:38 AM	#25
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints waive DE Chris McCain Originally Posted by hagan714 Either way all I know is we are second to last now in waiver claims right behind the Browns. this was a total screw up. Yep. It starts and the top and rolls down hill from there. jeanpierre and ctsaint01 like this.

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10-26-2016, 09:05 AM	#26
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints waive DE Chris McCain Originally Posted by jeanpierre R-e-a-d t-h-e p-o-s-t-s S-t-a-t-e-d w-h-a-t I-'-d d-o-n-e d-i-f-f-e-r-e-n-t-l-y Maybe this will help... Literacy Directory Had answered your question "challenge" as to what I would and wouldn't have done, now it is your turn... I read the posts. You never stated what you would have done differently with Callahan. All you did was ignore my challenge to tell me exactly what you would have done differently in the case concerning Callahan and posted a list of moves that did not produce as much as one would have wanted and said that YOU wouldn't have done them. That is easy to say now. Hindsight is 20/20. It is easy for anyone to point out, in a vacuum, that something did not work out optimally.

10-26-2016, 09:15 AM	#27
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints waive DE Chris McCain Originally Posted by hagan714 Either way all I know is we are second to last now in waiver claims right behind the Browns. this was a total screw up. And why is this such a huge deal? At this time of year nothing of material value hits the wire. But, Callahan WAS a value and that is why the Saints claimed him. What would have been a better value later? How was it a total screw up? But, because of unforeseen injuries the Saints were forced to free another roster spot. There was no other option available but to waive Callahan and hope he cleared so he could then be moved to the practice squad. It was a good move to claim Callahan in the first place. But, as I have pointed out, not all things go according to plan. The Saints are not alone in that fact. Don't forget that Green Bay had to waive him in the first place because they were dealing with the same sort of roster issues that are plaguing the Saints and many other teams in the NFL.
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10-26-2016, 09:18 AM	#28
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints waive DE Chris McCain Originally Posted by K Major Yep. It starts and the top and rolls down hill from there. Read what I just posted, K. Where exactly was the supposed screw up? There was none. You are listening to a load of crap and taking it as gospel. What step along that way was a screw up?

10-26-2016, 09:26 AM	#29
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints waive DE Chris McCain Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It is easy to question within a vacuum when you do not know, nor understand, the variables. Once again, a challenge to see who is smarter than Loomis and Payton on this move. Don't forget, it must fall within all NFL transaction rules which might mean actually reading some of them for a change. This is what we do here!!! LOL.

10-26-2016, 09:29 AM	#30
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Saints waive DE Chris McCain Originally Posted by jeanpierre Guido... How about you defend the following moves: Junior Galette Jairus Byrd Brandon Browner Coby Fleener Not sure what move you are talking about concerning Galette? There were several events connected to Galette. I certainly wouldn't have signed him to an extension knowing what we all know about him now. I'm sure the Saints front office agrees. Too bad we can't see into the future. Or is it the move of cutting him? While it wasn't all they could have done, it was the best PR move. It resulted in a huge cap hit, but without time travel it was unavoidable. Seeing the production we have seen out of Byrd I wish that move was never made. It had the potential of being another Darren Sharper sort of impact but didn't pan out. Once again, too bad we can't see into the future. Ditto with Browner. As for Fleener, I have absolutely no issue with his acquisition. The jury is still out on that one, but I see the potential for sure.
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