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Re: Saints waive DE Chris McCain

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 724906)

Not sure what move you are talking about concerning Galette? There were several events connected to Galette. I certainly wouldn't have signed him to an extension knowing what we all know about him now. I'm sure the Saints front office agrees. Too bad we can't see into the future. Or is it the move of cutting him? While it wasn't all they could have done, it was the best PR move. It resulted in a huge cap hit, but without time travel it was unavoidable.

Seeing the production we have seen out of Byrd I wish that move was never made. It had the potential of being another Darren Sharper sort of impact but didn't pan out. Once again, too bad we can't see into the future.

Ditto with Browner.

As for Fleener, I have absolutely no issue with his acquisition. The jury is still out on that one, but I see the potential for sure.

Go back to your meds...

Re: Saints waive DE Chris McCain

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 724926)

Go back to your meds...

As soon as I get your answer on the Callahan transactions. How would you have done it any differently besides your canned response of "I wouldn't have done it."

Obviously, they saw it as a great waiver opportunity, as did the Browns. We both know having a valid commodity hit the waiver, especially at this late date, is very rare. How would you have handled the situation any differently given the rules pertaining to waiver acquisitions, practice squad eligibility and active roster limitations?

Re: Saints waive DE Chris McCain

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 724827)

So. Your you either have no answer to what you would have personally done different in the Callahan case or are too lazy to do the research of the actual rules involved.

I challenged you first. If you can clearly state your case positively I will address the others.

Afraid or unable?

Guido you know I appreciate your analytical approach and your financial explanations of the way the NFL works.

However, we fans aren't paid to do Mickey Loomis' job. Nor are we paid to research available players in the draft or free agency......although we apparently do a better job than the professional talent evaluators and our GM Mickey Loomis.

Look. I've been supportive of Loomis since the day he arrived and have defended his decisions(he did help us win a Super bowl) but the dead money and piss poor talent evaluation has just about hung him and this team.

It's probably Paytons fault for trying to run the show when he's a terrible defensive evaluator. He thinks because he is so good with offense that he understands defense. He Doesn't! Someone needs to be hired to be the real GM and let Mickey count numbers which he does well. Put Sean Payton in a corner and leave him there throughout the entire draft where he can't botch the available picks.

Oh yes, Loomis deserves blame for letting Sean Payton run rough shod over him since he got here. It's a good thing they are drinking buddies. Oh wait, we've got a problem with that. Maybe that needs to be addressed too.:clown::clown:

Re: Saints waive DE Chris McCain

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 724931)

The section that I have "bolded" is where I have the issue. Some here state that as fact. What I have stressed repeatedly is that this is a statement that has no support whatsoever. You (not you personally) can easily say that when something does not work out to the Saints advantage that it is obviously due to the ineptitude of so-and-so and "you" know more and would not have made that mistake. That is where I have always called bullcrap and the only thing I have called bullcrap on. "You" are not in a position to have anywhere near the information available to make the decisions as do so-and-so. Who is to say "you" wouldn't have made exactly the same decision, or even an entirely different decision that worked out equally bad or worse?

This addresses the tendency to look at things in a vacuum. If "you" would take a step back and look around the league, bad outcomes happen to every franchise on similar type of decisions. Do the so-and-so occasionally make a bad judgement call not affected by unexpected occurrences (injuries, trouble with the law, etc)? Sure, they aren't perfect. But with virtually every decision that is made, good, bad or ones that turn out bad due to other factors, those decisions are made with what at the time appears to be the best move to make with what is known at the time.

I can say that I would have had much tighter security at airports back in the summer of 2001 and that the people in charge were stupid. I can say that I would have never let the Big Bopper board that plane back on that February day back in 1959. Whether I beleive that or not personally it is bullcrap.

This is all that I have tried to get across from day one. Have there been bad outcomes on some decisions by so-and-so with the (insert NFL team name)? Hell, yes. Can you prove as factual that "you", knowing all that so-and-so knew at the time would have acted differently? Hell, no and if "you" say any different "you" will prove that you definitely are full of crap.

Once again, Rugby Saint, you are not "you".

:D

Re: Saints waive DE Chris McCain

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 724929)

McCain would never had been promoted to the active squad after having used the priority claim on Callahan...

The team has preached players being multi-functional, then I'd installed a rotation of all the active defensive linemen (i.e. Onyemata would play some end as well as tackle) and had it game-planned that way instead of bringing in another body who wasn't going to see the field anyways...

Captain Obvious has left the building...