Mark Ingram

burningmetal · 10-31-2016, 02:02 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

So the question is: Do you spell him with Hightower until he shows he's got ball protection on the brain? Or do you just start Hightower?

If it were up to me, I'd be starting Hightower from here on out, until there is any reason to do otherwise. I hate when coaches try to fix the unbroken.

Ingram hasn't earned the right to start, at this point. He's had his chance and someone has now passed him up. I don't think we can afford to trade him, nor would I expect there would be enough interest in him to make it a real option.

I say that I don't think we can afford to trade him because we aren't exactly loaded at the position. There are a lot of running backs on the roster, but only two can be remotely considered as legitimate options, IMO. Cadet is not a good runner, Murphy has no idea where he's going on returns much less the running game, unfortunately. And Lasco is a special teams ace. Watching him run makes me cringe a little. He has a very awkward, upright running style and just doesn't look like an NFL back to me. He looks incredibly over matched from a strength standpoint, at the least.

Sorry to be blunt about it, but that's what I see from them. Ingram at least has the experience over those guys. Hightower is legitimate. His surgeries have taken away some of his lateral quickness, but he can hit the holes, has good vision, and is strong. He deserves to be the guy.

lee909 · 10-31-2016, 04:02 AM

The is a old saying from my days of playing soccer. The man is possesion of the shirt is the starter(its from the days of nobody having a shirt number,those that started wore 1-11). Hightower holds the starters jersey after yesterday and its up to Ingrsm to take it off him

ChrisXVI · 10-31-2016, 05:09 AM

Don't be surprised if Ingram goes off for 150 yards next week. The 49ers are allowing something like 185 yards rushing per game... good for last in the league. Could be just the kind of game Ingram needs to bounce back.

spkb25 · 10-31-2016, 05:32 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Don't be surprised if Ingram goes off for 150 yards next week. The 49ers are allowing something like 185 yards rushing per game... good for last in the league. Could be just the kind of game Ingram needs to bounce back.

most of these guys are A type people. They may play for money too, but they play for pride as well. Ingram has something to prove and it wouldn't bother me one bit if he chose to do it this week.

Cruize · 10-31-2016, 07:27 AM

Hightower should be the starter. The offense looks better with him in there. The run game is better with him in there. He's a punishing, down hill runner. The Saints are less predictable with him in there. Instead of playing the pass exclusively, defenses truly have to respect the run and play action.

AsylumGuido · 10-31-2016, 08:16 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

If it were up to me, I'd be starting Hightower from here on out, until there is any reason to do otherwise. I hate when coaches try to fix the unbroken.

Ingram hasn't earned the right to start, at this point. He's had his chance and someone has now passed him up. I don't think we can afford to trade him, nor would I expect there would be enough interest in him to make it a real option.

I say that I don't think we can afford to trade him because we aren't exactly loaded at the position. There are a lot of running backs on the roster, but only two can be remotely considered as legitimate options, IMO. Cadet is not a good runner, Murphy has no idea where he's going on returns much less the running game, unfortunately. And Lasco is a special teams ace. Watching him run makes me cringe a little. He has a very awkward, upright running style and just doesn't look like an NFL back to me. He looks incredibly over matched from a strength standpoint, at the least.

Sorry to be blunt about it, but that's what I see from them. Ingram at least has the experience over those guys. Hightower is legitimate. His surgeries have taken away some of his lateral quickness, but he can hit the holes, has good vision, and is strong. He deserves to be the guy.

I think you pretty much nailed it there. While I like Lasco's fire in the ST's, he kills the momentum when asked to carry the load.

hagan714 · 10-31-2016, 08:20 AM

you go with the hot hand that is all

Danno · 10-31-2016, 08:44 AM

Our depth chart for SF should read...
1-Hightower
2-Ingram
3-Cadet (Scat back role shared with Ingram)
4-Lasco/Murphy

K Major · 10-31-2016, 08:48 AM

Not sure if it's been mentioned this morning but congrats to that Saints offensive line. They held up extremely well against possibly one of the better defensive fronts in all of football.

captainshawn · 10-31-2016, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Our depth chart for SF should read...
1-Hightower
2-Ingram
3-Cadet (Scat back role shared with Ingram)
4-Lasco/Murphy

I think Lewis should be at number 3 as a scat back.

10-31-2016, 02:02 AM	#11
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,905 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Mark Ingram Originally Posted by leilung So the question is: Do you spell him with Hightower until he shows he's got ball protection on the brain? Or do you just start Hightower? If it were up to me, I'd be starting Hightower from here on out, until there is any reason to do otherwise. I hate when coaches try to fix the unbroken. Ingram hasn't earned the right to start, at this point. He's had his chance and someone has now passed him up. I don't think we can afford to trade him, nor would I expect there would be enough interest in him to make it a real option. I say that I don't think we can afford to trade him because we aren't exactly loaded at the position. There are a lot of running backs on the roster, but only two can be remotely considered as legitimate options, IMO. Cadet is not a good runner, Murphy has no idea where he's going on returns much less the running game, unfortunately. And Lasco is a special teams ace. Watching him run makes me cringe a little. He has a very awkward, upright running style and just doesn't look like an NFL back to me. He looks incredibly over matched from a strength standpoint, at the least. Sorry to be blunt about it, but that's what I see from them. Ingram at least has the experience over those guys. Hightower is legitimate. His surgeries have taken away some of his lateral quickness, but he can hit the holes, has good vision, and is strong. He deserves to be the guy. mleg1972, AsylumGuido and Beastmode like this.
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10-31-2016, 04:02 AM	#12
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,716 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Mark Ingram The is a old saying from my days of playing soccer. The man is possesion of the shirt is the starter(its from the days of nobody having a shirt number,those that started wore 1-11). Hightower holds the starters jersey after yesterday and its up to Ingrsm to take it off him Rugby Saint II likes this.

10-31-2016, 05:09 AM	#13
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Mark Ingram Don't be surprised if Ingram goes off for 150 yards next week. The 49ers are allowing something like 185 yards rushing per game... good for last in the league. Could be just the kind of game Ingram needs to bounce back. saintfan and spkb25 like this.

10-31-2016, 05:32 AM	#14
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,057	Re: Mark Ingram Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Don't be surprised if Ingram goes off for 150 yards next week. The 49ers are allowing something like 185 yards rushing per game... good for last in the league. Could be just the kind of game Ingram needs to bounce back. most of these guys are A type people. They may play for money too, but they play for pride as well. Ingram has something to prove and it wouldn't bother me one bit if he chose to do it this week.

10-31-2016, 07:27 AM	#15
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,294	Re: Mark Ingram Hightower should be the starter. The offense looks better with him in there. The run game is better with him in there. He's a punishing, down hill runner. The Saints are less predictable with him in there. Instead of playing the pass exclusively, defenses truly have to respect the run and play action. K Major likes this.
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10-31-2016, 08:16 AM	#16
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,391	Re: Mark Ingram Originally Posted by burningmetal If it were up to me, I'd be starting Hightower from here on out, until there is any reason to do otherwise. I hate when coaches try to fix the unbroken. Ingram hasn't earned the right to start, at this point. He's had his chance and someone has now passed him up. I don't think we can afford to trade him, nor would I expect there would be enough interest in him to make it a real option. I say that I don't think we can afford to trade him because we aren't exactly loaded at the position. There are a lot of running backs on the roster, but only two can be remotely considered as legitimate options, IMO. Cadet is not a good runner, Murphy has no idea where he's going on returns much less the running game, unfortunately. And Lasco is a special teams ace. Watching him run makes me cringe a little. He has a very awkward, upright running style and just doesn't look like an NFL back to me. He looks incredibly over matched from a strength standpoint, at the least. Sorry to be blunt about it, but that's what I see from them. Ingram at least has the experience over those guys. Hightower is legitimate. His surgeries have taken away some of his lateral quickness, but he can hit the holes, has good vision, and is strong. He deserves to be the guy. I think you pretty much nailed it there. While I like Lasco's fire in the ST's, he kills the momentum when asked to carry the load.

10-31-2016, 08:20 AM	#17
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Mark Ingram you go with the hot hand that is all MarchingOn likes this.

10-31-2016, 08:44 AM	#18
Danno Site Donor 2014 Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,640	Re: Mark Ingram Our depth chart for SF should read... 1-Hightower 2-Ingram 3-Cadet (Scat back role shared with Ingram) 4-Lasco/Murphy

10-31-2016, 08:48 AM	#19
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,018 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Mark Ingram Not sure if it's been mentioned this morning but congrats to that Saints offensive line. They held up extremely well against possibly one of the better defensive fronts in all of football. saintfan, Danno, spkb25 and 1 others like this.

10-31-2016, 08:57 AM	#20
captainshawn Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Lake Hermitage, La. Posts: 289	Re: Mark Ingram Originally Posted by Danno Our depth chart for SF should read... 1-Hightower 2-Ingram 3-Cadet (Scat back role shared with Ingram) 4-Lasco/Murphy I think Lewis should be at number 3 as a scat back.

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