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Old 11-01-2016, 11:21 AM   #11
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Re: Pro Football Focus: Analysis and Grades for Saints/Seattle

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Old 11-02-2016, 10:09 AM   #12
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Re: Pro Football Focus: Analysis and Grades for Saints/Seattle

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Like the idea of what PFF is trying to do in so far as grading players, would like to know how they grade as their grades don't sync with what I'm seeing...

Cam Jordan played much better this week containing the edge and applying pressure rather than knifing through and allow the opposition to either geaux underneath or get outside of him...

Robertson and Stupar deserve better grades - their play was outstanding...

Andrus Peat is really coming on and if Armstead continues to be fragile, have no problem with him as our Left Tackle...

Michael Thomas is not only the top rookie wide receiver, but is a top ten wide receiver in this league...

Tim Hightower deserves more love as well...
HOW WE GRADE
Our patent-pending approach to rating is thorough, one of a kind, and goes beyond the surface of the game. View details of PFF’s partnership with the Pro Coach Network, which reviews every PFF grade, here.

STEP 1
We grade. An analyst grades every single player and every single play on a scale of -2 to +2.

STEP 2
We grade again. A second analyst grades every single player and every single play on a scale of -2 to +2.

STEP 3
We grade a third time. A third analyst rules on any differences between the first two.

STEP 4
We verify. Our grades are verified by the Pro Coach Network and their 400 years of combined NFL and college coaching experience.

STEP 5
Advanced Normalization: The raw grades are normalized to better account for the situation; this ranges from where the player lined up to the drop-back depth of the quarterback, to everything in between.

STEP 6
We set the grade. Convert to 1-100 scale.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/about/how-we-grade/
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Old 11-02-2016, 12:01 PM   #13
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Re: Pro Football Focus: Analysis and Grades for Saints/Seattle

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HOW WE GRADE
Our patent-pending approach to rating is thorough, one of a kind, and goes beyond the surface of the game. View details of PFF’s partnership with the Pro Coach Network, which reviews every PFF grade, here.

STEP 1
We grade. An analyst grades every single player and every single play on a scale of -2 to +2.

STEP 2
We grade again. A second analyst grades every single player and every single play on a scale of -2 to +2.

STEP 3
We grade a third time. A third analyst rules on any differences between the first two.

STEP 4
We verify. Our grades are verified by the Pro Coach Network and their 400 years of combined NFL and college coaching experience.

STEP 5
Advanced Normalization: The raw grades are normalized to better account for the situation; this ranges from where the player lined up to the drop-back depth of the quarterback, to everything in between.

STEP 6
We set the grade. Convert to 1-100 scale.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/about/how-we-grade/
Thanks Danno, for posting; I've read that before on PFF, but the devil is in the details...

I'd like to see the score and notes sheets; I'd like to see their "objectivity scales"...
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Things are looking up. I believe in this young team. Peat is shutting up the doubters too. I love it.
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Old 11-04-2016, 09:39 AM   #15
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Things are looking up. I believe in this young team. Peat is shutting up the doubters too. I love it.
Healthy Armstead-Peat-Unger could be devastating...
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Old 11-05-2016, 07:02 AM   #16
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I hope you are correct sir, it does seem that his play has improved
Me too. lets go with the best case here

So peat can in a pinch kick out to LOT if needed. Problem one solved

Problem 2 ROG
It is easier to find a swing OG than it is a swing OT. one with the skill set to kick out as a RT and/or center.

Draft?
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Old 11-05-2016, 05:41 PM   #17
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Re: Pro Football Focus: Analysis and Grades for Saints/Seattle

You are correct Hagan, draft is the right way to go. I think the Saints should keep looking at RTs and RGs in the coming drafts. Id like a guy that could switch on all three interior positions and one guy that could play both RG and RT.
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Old 11-06-2016, 07:51 AM   #18
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Re: Pro Football Focus: Analysis and Grades for Saints/Seattle

I agree with drafting some young talent to eventually take over at RG and RT, but nothing too urgent is needed. Even at age 33, both Evans and Strief are still playing excellent football. Getting another 2 or 3 years of high productivity from them wouldn't be unusual, lineman can last a very long time in the NFL.
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Old 11-06-2016, 09:26 AM   #19
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Pretend Football Facts at it again, I see. We all know Brees and his receivers had a pretty solid, though unspectacular day. No Hightower? An over 80 grade for Peat? That's real cute. And I respect that Armstead is trying to play through pain unlike a certain player who lives on the inactive list, but he has been barely adequate by his standards since his injury. He looks a little better of late, as he's hopefully getting healthy, but that grade is too high.

It is apparent to me that PFF tries to make themselves seem smart by overlooking good performances and rewarding average play, by spinning some tale to make us believe that what we saw was just our imagination. Amusing.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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