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I had thought this would be a game we would have been let down in because of the back to back home games for them and coming off a loss. I used a lot of numerical stats pointing out things pointing to SF winning. It ended up going our way. But sometimes it's best to pick something and be wrong. If we did not have that kind of defense we really do not win this game. But I hope this win is not for nothing as I feel we need to get in the playoffs to stop Atlanta because I am too concerned there.

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looking at the needs on defense I have to admit the win did cross off players in the draft as we tumble down the draft board.

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We need to get in. Vikings are giving us a opening but it sucks the winner of Arizona/Minnesota will probably be problem for us. Winning next week plus going 3-3 in division I believe gets us 8-8 or 9-7.

Here's who we are contending with.......
Dallas(7-1)....Will they win division?
@Pit-L
Bal-L(stopping Elliott is key and their run d is good)
Was-L(the road win trend)
@Min-L
@NYG-?
TB-W
Det-W
@Phi-L

They lose to NYG, they are 9-7. They would have equal conference record....common advantage.......tied 3-3. Strength of victory....come back to this.

NYG(5-3)(if they sweep Dallas they win division but they look bad)
Cin-W
Chi-W
@Cle-W
@Pit-L
Dal-?
Det-W
@Phi-L
@Was-L

They lose to Dallas they are 9-7 and beat us h2h. Would need another team tied as they would have a worse conference record.

Was(4-3-1)
Min-W
GB-L
@Dal-W
@Ari-L
@Phi-L
Car-W
@Chi-W
NYG-W

9-6-1. That beats us. They probably get second regardless in their division.

Eagles have four losses now, same as us and probably lose to Atlanta, Seattle, Cincinatti, and Baltimore.

GB(4-4)
@Ten-W
@Was-w
@Phi-L
Hou-W
Sea-W
@Chi-W
Min-W
@Det-?

Looking at 10-6 if they don't need to win in Detroit.

Minnesota(5-3)
@Was-L
Ari-W
@Det-L
Dal-W
@Jac-W
Ind-W
@GB-L
Chi-W

They really would need to lose to Indy or Jacksonville and I don't see it. Indy got their 2 wins against the NFC already and Jacksonville's strength is their passing game which sucks going against this team. They're in at 10-6.

Detroit(5-4)
Jac-W
Min-W
@NO-L(they have to)
Chi-W
@NYG-L
@Dal-L
GB-?

9-7 or 8-8 but they are 2-2 in ic and we could have h2h.

Atlanta(6-3)
@Phi-W
Ari-?
KC-?
@LA-W
SF-W
@Car-?
NO-?
Does Atlanta go 3-3 or 5-1 in division. They need to lose all of the ? games for us to have a chance at division.

Carolina(3-5)
KC-?
NO-?
@Oak-W
@Sea-L
SD-W
@Was-L
Atl-?
@TB-?

They are going 9-7 or less but a tie at 9-7 puts them ahead of us in common games. They need to lose to us, Atlanta, TB, or KC.

TB(3-5)
Chi-W(have to)
@KC-L
Sea-L
@SD-W
NO-L
@Dal-L
@NO-?
Car-?

not a threat.

Arizona(because Seattle has division)
(3-4-1)
SF-W
@Min-L
@Atl-?
Was-W
@Mia-W
NO-W
@Sea-L
@LA-W

If they beat Atlanta 9-61, if not 8-7-1.

LA(3-5)
@NYJ-L
Mia-W
@NO-L
@NE-L
Atl-L
@Sea-L
SF-W
Ari-L

5-11 does not matter.

As it stands should Atlanta beat Arizona, we're in trouble. Maybe we can hope Minnesota loses a game they are supposed to win. Or Washington gets swept by Dallas. Best scenario is losing last game to giants and hoping giants beat Dallas. Washington would be 8-7-1. Atlanta beating Arizona, Washington and Dallas losing to the giants in their second game will have us and Dallas vying for the second wild card. We would both beat Detroit so they are first out.

Dallas's projected beaten teams' records
@Was(8-7-1--7 wins beaten, the one other is against them)
Chi(3-13)
@SF(2-14)
Cin(7-8-1)
@GB(10-6 or 11-5)
Phi(8-8....7 wins beaten)
@Cle(1-15)
TB(7-9 or 6-10)
Det(9-7 or 8-8....combine records with GB which have the accurate number)

52 or 53 wins beaten

Us
@SD(7-9)
Car(8-8 or 7-9......7 or 6 wins beaten)
Sea(11-4-1)
@SF(2-14)
Den(10-6)
LA(5-11)
Det(9-7 or 8-8)
@TB(7-9 or 6-10....possibly 6 or 5 wins beaten)

This would put us at 54-57 wins beaten. If we sweep Carolina however or TB we get additional wins taking us to 55-58. Beating one of each, then we beat Atlanta who would have 10 or 11 wins taking us to 65-69. The lowest number we beat Dallas and probably due to us beating Seattle and should we beat Denver that helps even more.

One other possibility is giants losing to the bengals. It could happen but will it? That then puts us possibly in good position to get that last wild card if Washington gets swept by Dallas or loses last game to giants. However, if vikings can fall to 9-7, then they beat NYG head to head. The tie-breaker becomes conference record which we and giants would be tied if they lose to Cincy and beat Washington. If they lose to Washington and beat Cincy. They tie Minnesota in CR giving us the wild card. This is all assuming Arizona loses at Atlanta.

Our best bet is to keep winning until Arizona and hope things go our way week 16.

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What does that even mean? We could have fielded the worse defense we had this year and still have won that game. 9/10 times when a team scores over 40 points they win. Look at last years Giants game.

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I'm going to shorten this post for you, here goes...

Atlanta isn't sweeping. We beat the teams in our division we are in. Period.

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Agreed.

If we win 6 or our next 8, we're probably in.

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Nailed it!!! :biggun:

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Thumbs up

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We are a lot better than people here and the media give us credit for. We got a shot at the playoffs... We have gotten better since the start, don't count us out yet.

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They can win 10 games if they can be consistent. That has been an issue for years, not knowing which team would show up.

Until the defense gets much better than it has been, no one should be looking for respect from the media. They only talk about super bowl contenders, and the Cowboys (whether or not they are any good) not playoff contenders. If some of the returning players on defense can make this a middle of the road unit and start creating turnovers on a more consistent basis, then people will start paying attention nationally.