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leilung 11-07-2016 07:11 AM

Is this cheating or good football?
 
It turns out that the Niners D was coached to draw the holding penalty close to the half to prevent he Saints from going for the TD. Is this cheating or just good strategy by Kelly? Or is this just more common than I believe?

Chip Kelly had the 49ers hold on purpose to prevent the Saints trying for a TD - SBNation.com

Seer1 11-07-2016 07:28 AM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
Probably the most blatant I can remember, but you really see it all the time. If a CB feels he's beaten and there's a chance at a TD, he'll grab the receiver every time. The niners just knew there was going to be a TD pass a little earlier than usual. This is a good strategy until the next rule change.

Take it for the compliment it was.

Crusader 11-07-2016 07:48 AM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
Its not cheating since there is a consequence right away in form of a penalty but I think it is unethical. You can have penalties that creates a runoff on the clock at the end of halfs, here the opposite should happen, give the offense another 10s.

spkb25 11-07-2016 08:18 AM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
not cheating, and winning is what it is all about. Smart play.

Euphoria 11-07-2016 08:23 AM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
Not cheating it is smart football. Probably haven't seen this before in the NFL but its fair and fair game.

Its no more cheating then teaching DB's if you are going to get beat deep go ahead and take the holding pentalty or Passing interferece. Than give up a big play or TD.

Its fair game and part of the game.

rezburna 11-07-2016 09:10 AM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
Very smart move.

RailBoss 11-07-2016 09:16 AM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
If the NFL allows it then its smart Coaching, I'm sure we would do the same if our staff had the opportunity. Needless to say they are more than aware of it now.

SaintFanInATLHELL 11-07-2016 09:18 AM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
Not only is it not cheating, it's really not an effective strategy. A half cannot end on a defensive penalty. So while the idea was to suck up some time, ultimately it could not prevent an offense from scoring if they had to.

SFIAH

vpheughan 11-07-2016 10:13 AM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
Change the rule to put the time back on the clock.

K Major 11-07-2016 11:09 AM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
Hack-A-Shaq?

leilung 11-07-2016 11:16 AM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 726350)
Probably the most blatant I can remember, but you really see it all the time. If a CB feels he's beaten and there's a chance at a TD, he'll grab the receiver every time. The niners just knew there was going to be a TD pass a little earlier than usual. This is a good strategy until the next rule change.

Take it for the compliment it was.

I get that, but the whole damn secondary tackling every receiver?

WillMacKenzie 11-07-2016 11:29 AM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
If it were us doing it, I'd say it was smart. Buuuuuut seeing as it's the 40-whiners:


44Champs 11-07-2016 11:37 AM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vpheughan (Post 726379)
Change the rule to put the time back on the clock.

Exactly. We were saying this yesterday.

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captainshawn 11-07-2016 11:59 AM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
Was listening to Deke and Bobby after the game. They said that we probably have that same play in our play books. I thought it was pretty smart.

Euphoria 11-07-2016 01:13 PM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
I don't think there needs to be a rule change... it happened against us so that is why some are upset by it... but we get to use the same tactic we just have to know how to use it to our advantage as well.

j-byrd 11-07-2016 01:53 PM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
It's not cheating unless we wouldve lost by 4 or less points. Then we would've been screaming how we could've made a touchdown but we got cheated! Lol

saintfan 11-07-2016 02:06 PM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Euphoria (Post 726405)
I don't think there needs to be a rule change... it happened against us so that is why some are upset by it... but we get to use the same tactic we just have to know how to use it to our advantage as well.

Exactly. Let's not be the vikings.

mapcow 11-08-2016 10:02 AM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
Fair play, but kind of lame. Idea for a rule change, if inside the 15 and blatant holding of receivers to not even get a chance to make a play on the ball, and with less than 15 seconds left in the game.... penalty called and the ball is placed at the 1 yard line. Offense has a decision at this point.

K Major 11-08-2016 10:10 AM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
Side note: I thought the officiating was spotty in crucial moments of last night (Seahawks vs Bills) game.

Another reason why ratings are dropping.

The Dude 11-08-2016 12:09 PM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
Smart move. You see it with cornerbacks all the time. They match up one on one with a long pass to a good receiver that is going to be an obvious Td and the corner will take the penalty if he knows he can't hang with receiver. Saves a Td.

Cruize 11-08-2016 01:53 PM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
Brilliant football. Never thought I would say that about Chip Kelly. :)

Rugby Saint II 11-09-2016 11:56 AM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
Not at all. It's playing TO THE LIMIT!!

QBREES9 11-09-2016 12:24 PM

Re: Is this cheating or good football?
 
If you don't get caught, it's good football


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