Is this cheating or good football?

leilung · 11-07-2016, 08:11 AM

It turns out that the Niners D was coached to draw the holding penalty close to the half to prevent he Saints from going for the TD. Is this cheating or just good strategy by Kelly? Or is this just more common than I believe?

Chip Kelly had the 49ers hold on purpose to prevent the Saints trying for a TD - SBNation.com

Seer1 · 11-07-2016, 08:28 AM

Probably the most blatant I can remember, but you really see it all the time. If a CB feels he's beaten and there's a chance at a TD, he'll grab the receiver every time. The niners just knew there was going to be a TD pass a little earlier than usual. This is a good strategy until the next rule change.

Take it for the compliment it was.

Crusader · 11-07-2016, 08:48 AM

Its not cheating since there is a consequence right away in form of a penalty but I think it is unethical. You can have penalties that creates a runoff on the clock at the end of halfs, here the opposite should happen, give the offense another 10s.

spkb25 · 11-07-2016, 09:18 AM

not cheating, and winning is what it is all about. Smart play.

Euphoria · 11-07-2016, 09:23 AM

Not cheating it is smart football. Probably haven't seen this before in the NFL but its fair and fair game.

Its no more cheating then teaching DB's if you are going to get beat deep go ahead and take the holding pentalty or Passing interferece. Than give up a big play or TD.

Its fair game and part of the game.

rezburna · 11-07-2016, 10:10 AM

Very smart move.

RailBoss · 11-07-2016, 10:16 AM

If the NFL allows it then its smart Coaching, I'm sure we would do the same if our staff had the opportunity. Needless to say they are more than aware of it now.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-07-2016, 10:18 AM

Not only is it not cheating, it's really not an effective strategy. A half cannot end on a defensive penalty. So while the idea was to suck up some time, ultimately it could not prevent an offense from scoring if they had to.

SFIAH

vpheughan · 11-07-2016, 11:13 AM

Change the rule to put the time back on the clock.

K Major · 11-07-2016, 12:09 PM

Hack-A-Shaq?

11-07-2016, 08:11 AM	#1
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,368	Is this cheating or good football? It turns out that the Niners D was coached to draw the holding penalty close to the half to prevent he Saints from going for the TD. Is this cheating or just good strategy by Kelly? Or is this just more common than I believe? Chip Kelly had the 49ers hold on purpose to prevent the Saints trying for a TD - SBNation.com

11-07-2016, 08:28 AM	#2
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Is this cheating or good football? Probably the most blatant I can remember, but you really see it all the time. If a CB feels he's beaten and there's a chance at a TD, he'll grab the receiver every time. The niners just knew there was going to be a TD pass a little earlier than usual. This is a good strategy until the next rule change. Take it for the compliment it was.

11-07-2016, 08:48 AM	#3
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Is this cheating or good football? Its not cheating since there is a consequence right away in form of a penalty but I think it is unethical. You can have penalties that creates a runoff on the clock at the end of halfs, here the opposite should happen, give the offense another 10s. Danno, WhoDat!656 and frydaddy like this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Is this cheating or good football? not cheating, and winning is what it is all about. Smart play. saintfan, hagan714 and captainshawn like this.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Is this cheating or good football? Not cheating it is smart football. Probably haven't seen this before in the NFL but its fair and fair game. Its no more cheating then teaching DB's if you are going to get beat deep go ahead and take the holding pentalty or Passing interferece. Than give up a big play or TD. Its fair game and part of the game. saintfan, hagan714 and Rugby Saint II like this.

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