Saints Right Tackle Zach Strief Rated As League's Best At Midseason

Utah_Saint · 11-09-2016, 05:30 PM

Saints right tackle Zach Strief rated as league's best at midseason, website says | NOLA.com

The offensive line is one of the strengths of this team. Kinda surprising considering how bad they looked in preseason.

Danno · 11-09-2016, 05:37 PM

Well deserved, but as soon as he has 1 bad game the Strief haters will claim he sucks.

iceshack149 · 11-09-2016, 05:38 PM

What? No fanfare? This guy has been called garbage on this very site and has been solid since his days of being declared eligible in spot duty.
Whodat, Zach!

dizzle88 · 11-09-2016, 05:49 PM

I'll admit I was wrong about two guys, Strief and Peat, both have played incredible so far, especially to say our O line looked very dodgy in preseason.

Danno · 11-09-2016, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I'll admit I was wrong about two guys, Strief and Peat, both have played incredible so far, especially to say our O line looked very dodgy in preseason.

There's a huge difference between someone who was concerned about our O-line, and the clowns who kept calling Strief garbage.

AsylumGuido · 11-10-2016, 07:48 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I'll admit I was wrong about two guys, Strief and Peat, both have played incredible so far, especially to say our O line looked very dodgy in preseason.

At least you are man enough to admit it. There were two or three others that had the Saints offensive line pegged as the worst ever at the start of the season that have mysteriously disappeared.

burningmetal · 11-10-2016, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

At least you are man enough to admit it. There were two or three others that had the Saints offensive line pegged as the worst ever at the start of the season that have mysteriously disappeared.

Nobody ever said worst ever. That is your typical hyperbole to make yourself feel better.

The line was garbage a year ago, and they brought the entirety of it back, with Peat being the only one young enough to make the inexperienced excuse. Peat has improved in the run game, still not that great at pass blocking. Our running game comes and goes, and our QB still has to get rid of the ball early. Is it as bad as it could have been? No. It's been decent. But we have players on offense who mask a lot of would be issues, in my opinion.

AsylumGuido · 11-10-2016, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Nobody ever said worst ever. That is your typical hyperbole to make yourself feel better.

The line was garbage a year ago, and they brought the entirety of it back, with Peat being the only one young enough to make the inexperienced excuse. Peat has improved in the run game, still not that great at pass blocking. Our running game comes and goes, and our QB still has to get rid of the ball early. Is it as bad as it could have been? No. It's been decent. But we have players on offense who mask a lot of would be issues, in my opinion.

Do you remember this?

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I, for one, am not on any ledge. But do I think the line sucks? Abso-freaking-lutely.

I watched the replay, too. Protection was just as bad as ever, and so was the run game. And being that it IS pre-season, defenses aren't exactly firing away out there. Plus, there was no JJ Watt.

I'm all for giving guys time to gel, but this is the same group from last year. How long does it take to gel? I think the defense will be improved, and depending on how far the pass rush has come (of which, there is no true barometer until the real season starts) they could even be vastly improved. But on offense, everything hinges on that O-line, and nothing is indicating to me that it is heading in the right direction.

That said, it wasn't you I was addressing. WillSaints81 and saintshrimp were the two I was referring to and both have become more and more scarce as the Saints have looked better.

burningmetal · 11-10-2016, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Do you remember this?

That said, it wasn't you I was addressing. WillSaints81 and saintshrimp were the two I was referring to and both have become more and more scarce as the Saints have looked better.

I remember posting that very clearly. When did I say "worst ever"? You're referencing a post where I said I watched a replay of some game where our protection was as bad as ever. That means as bad as it's been. Not as bad as any in the history of football. How did you manage to twist that? You just went through my posts and tried to find the closest thing you could come up with to twist my words into making your point?

I was skeptical, and had every reason to be. It's been better than I expected. That said, it is far from a strength, as some have suggested, in my humble opinion.

As for the other posters you mentioned, I don't know where they are, are why they haven't been around according to you, but I don't remember them saying "worst ever", either. Everyone was skeptical, because it was the same group that struggled mightily a year ago, and it wasn't a particularly young line.

Meanwhile, many people, such as myself, said this was going to be either a .500 or maybe 10-6 team, if everything broke right, because there were too many question marks. You complained about that and called us negative nancy's. Well it's been an up and down year and we're 4-4. You want to talk about that?

We all had our opinions. And not everything plays out the way you think, or hope it will.

saintshrimp · 12-11-2016, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Do you remember this?

That said, it wasn't you I was addressing. WillSaints81 and saintshrimp were the two I was referring to and both have become more and more scarce as the Saints have looked better.

It isnt that ive been avoiding the fourm its it gets real old trying to convince stubborn people like you who cant see through your Fandom that this team isnt very good.

11-09-2016, 05:30 PM	#1
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Saints Right Tackle Zach Strief Rated As League's Best At Midseason Saints right tackle Zach Strief rated as league's best at midseason, website says \| NOLA.com The offensive line is one of the strengths of this team. Kinda surprising considering how bad they looked in preseason. RockyMountainSaint, 44Champs and Saint in Aus like this.

11-09-2016, 05:37 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: Saints Right Tackle Zach Strief Rated As League's Best At Midseason Well deserved, but as soon as he has 1 bad game the Strief haters will claim he sucks. RockyMountainSaint and Crusader like this.

11-09-2016, 05:38 PM	#3
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,368 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints Right Tackle Zach Strief Rated As League's Best At Midseason What? No fanfare? This guy has been called garbage on this very site and has been solid since his days of being declared eligible in spot duty. Whodat, Zach! Danno and RockyMountainSaint like this.

11-09-2016, 05:49 PM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: Saints Right Tackle Zach Strief Rated As League's Best At Midseason I'll admit I was wrong about two guys, Strief and Peat, both have played incredible so far, especially to say our O line looked very dodgy in preseason. Danno and AsylumGuido like this.

11-09-2016, 06:26 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: Saints Right Tackle Zach Strief Rated As League's Best At Midseason Originally Posted by dizzle88 I'll admit I was wrong about two guys, Strief and Peat, both have played incredible so far, especially to say our O line looked very dodgy in preseason. There's a huge difference between someone who was concerned about our O-line, and the clowns who kept calling Strief garbage. AsylumGuido likes this.

11-10-2016, 07:48 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,572	Re: Saints Right Tackle Zach Strief Rated As League's Best At Midseason Originally Posted by dizzle88 I'll admit I was wrong about two guys, Strief and Peat, both have played incredible so far, especially to say our O line looked very dodgy in preseason. At least you are man enough to admit it. There were two or three others that had the Saints offensive line pegged as the worst ever at the start of the season that have mysteriously disappeared. dizzle88 likes this.

11-10-2016, 11:10 AM	#7
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Right Tackle Zach Strief Rated As League's Best At Midseason Originally Posted by AsylumGuido At least you are man enough to admit it. There were two or three others that had the Saints offensive line pegged as the worst ever at the start of the season that have mysteriously disappeared. Nobody ever said worst ever. That is your typical hyperbole to make yourself feel better. The line was garbage a year ago, and they brought the entirety of it back, with Peat being the only one young enough to make the inexperienced excuse. Peat has improved in the run game, still not that great at pass blocking. Our running game comes and goes, and our QB still has to get rid of the ball early. Is it as bad as it could have been? No. It's been decent. But we have players on offense who mask a lot of would be issues, in my opinion.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

11-10-2016, 11:32 AM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,572	Re: Saints Right Tackle Zach Strief Rated As League's Best At Midseason Originally Posted by burningmetal Nobody ever said worst ever. That is your typical hyperbole to make yourself feel better. The line was garbage a year ago, and they brought the entirety of it back, with Peat being the only one young enough to make the inexperienced excuse. Peat has improved in the run game, still not that great at pass blocking. Our running game comes and goes, and our QB still has to get rid of the ball early. Is it as bad as it could have been? No. It's been decent. But we have players on offense who mask a lot of would be issues, in my opinion. Do you remember this? Originally Posted by burningmetal I, for one, am not on any ledge. But do I think the line sucks? Abso-freaking-lutely. I watched the replay, too. Protection was just as bad as ever, and so was the run game. And being that it IS pre-season, defenses aren't exactly firing away out there. Plus, there was no JJ Watt. I'm all for giving guys time to gel, but this is the same group from last year. How long does it take to gel? I think the defense will be improved, and depending on how far the pass rush has come (of which, there is no true barometer until the real season starts) they could even be vastly improved. But on offense, everything hinges on that O-line, and nothing is indicating to me that it is heading in the right direction. That said, it wasn't you I was addressing. WillSaints81 and saintshrimp were the two I was referring to and both have become more and more scarce as the Saints have looked better.

11-10-2016, 07:56 PM	#9
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Right Tackle Zach Strief Rated As League's Best At Midseason Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Do you remember this? That said, it wasn't you I was addressing. WillSaints81 and saintshrimp were the two I was referring to and both have become more and more scarce as the Saints have looked better. I remember posting that very clearly. When did I say "worst ever"? You're referencing a post where I said I watched a replay of some game where our protection was as bad as ever. That means as bad as it's been. Not as bad as any in the history of football. How did you manage to twist that? You just went through my posts and tried to find the closest thing you could come up with to twist my words into making your point? I was skeptical, and had every reason to be. It's been better than I expected. That said, it is far from a strength, as some have suggested, in my humble opinion. As for the other posters you mentioned, I don't know where they are, are why they haven't been around according to you, but I don't remember them saying "worst ever", either. Everyone was skeptical, because it was the same group that struggled mightily a year ago, and it wasn't a particularly young line. Meanwhile, many people, such as myself, said this was going to be either a .500 or maybe 10-6 team, if everything broke right, because there were too many question marks. You complained about that and called us negative nancy's. Well it's been an up and down year and we're 4-4. You want to talk about that? We all had our opinions. And not everything plays out the way you think, or hope it will.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

12-11-2016, 06:59 PM	#10
saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: Saints Right Tackle Zach Strief Rated As League's Best At Midseason Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Do you remember this? That said, it wasn't you I was addressing. WillSaints81 and saintshrimp were the two I was referring to and both have become more and more scarce as the Saints have looked better. It isnt that ive been avoiding the fourm its it gets real old trying to convince stubborn people like you who cant see through your Fandom that this team isnt very good.