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ChrisXVI 11-10-2016 01:18 PM

Kenny Vacarro Facing 4-Game Suspension
 

Well done Kenny. Thanks for that.

jonnyrotten 11-10-2016 01:23 PM

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perfect

MatthewT 11-10-2016 01:28 PM

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Hope he can appeal so he keeps playing the rest of this year, then cut him in the off-season and be done!

Rugby Saint II 11-10-2016 01:35 PM

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No wonder he's been reading his assignments better...........

CharityMike 11-10-2016 01:36 PM

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Good job dumb a$$. Way to put the team above yourself.

jnormand 11-10-2016 01:45 PM

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****!

jnormand 11-10-2016 01:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 726714)
Hope he can appeal so he keeps playing the rest of this year, then cut him in the off-season and be done!

Why cut him? That's crazy. He's a good safety.

blackangold 11-10-2016 01:48 PM

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Dont jump to conclusions.

There are so many supplements out there that are not investigated enough. It's far to easy to slip a banned substance into a "pre-workout" supplement.

He will appeal and might serve it next year, nothing to worry about now.

saintfan 11-10-2016 02:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 726721)
Dont jump to conclusions.

There are so many supplements out there that are not investigated enough. It's far to easy to slip a banned substance into a "pre-workout" supplement.

He will appeal and and best might serve it next year, nothing to worry about now.

Sometimes I go too far with 'benefit of the doubt'. It's risky. Anyway I agree with you 100%. Let's everybody just calm down. Hold your spears for the moment.

Papa Voodoo 11-10-2016 02:06 PM

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Is Harper still on the roster?

dizzle88 11-10-2016 02:13 PM

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You absolute bellend Vaccaro, way to be a leader and put us in a difficult spot when we are in the midst of a decent run.

ScottF 11-10-2016 02:43 PM

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maybe he has Hartley's old locker and just grabbed the wrong bottle

New Orleans Saints kicker Garrett Hartley says he took banned stimulant Adderall to stay awake | NOLA.com

The Dude 11-10-2016 03:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 726720)
Why cut him? That's crazy. He's a good safety.

Yea no ****. That's about the dumbest thing I ever read on here. And I have read some doozies

blackangold 11-10-2016 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 726729)
Yea no ****. That's about the dumbest thing I ever read on here. And I have read some doozies

You've written some doozies ;)

brees84 11-10-2016 03:44 PM

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Big blow. Kenny Vaccaro has huge impact on this defense. There was one game this season when Harper played in his place. It was very ugly. Vaccaro is not perfect but he is always in position to make a play. (run game) Harper often is nowhere near football.

ChrisXVI 11-10-2016 03:53 PM

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neugey 11-10-2016 04:48 PM

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Goodell spiked his gatorade, that's what I'm going with.

AsylumGuido 11-10-2016 04:49 PM

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Keep fingers crossed that it is a false reading on the 'A' sample. I doubt it, but will hope.

The Dude 11-10-2016 04:50 PM

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Funny how this comes up the day after Brees speaks up about suspension policy.

WhoDat!656 11-10-2016 05:04 PM

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The plot thickens!


NFL reports Vaccaro suspension before Saints even knew about it | ProFootballTalk

WillSaints81 11-10-2016 05:13 PM

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Hopefully he doesn't get suspended(if he does) until after week 11. We really don't need him against LA, Detroit, TB maybe. But TB has not been able to beat us for four Qs unless Brees is banged up and they're not as good at home.

hagan714 11-10-2016 05:35 PM

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our secondary is ........................ out of luck

dizzle88 11-10-2016 05:45 PM

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Seriously, how selfish he is to do something like that.

We are slowly fighting back, D is trending upwards and we have won 4 of the last 5 games, then Vaccaro goes and does something like this and screws us over.

Seriously, think about the team, your viewed as a leader on defense, this could demoralise them now.

Cruize 11-10-2016 06:36 PM

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Stoopid.

SaintGup 11-10-2016 06:56 PM

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If he has taken them then what an idiot! That shows no thought at all and screws the team over. It doesn't matter if you think that it is wrong to ban a substance or not, if the NFL ban apples YOU CANNOT TAKE THEM. What the hell is wrong with players that do this. If the second test comes back clear please ignore the previous message.

ChrisXVI 11-10-2016 07:52 PM

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Kinda makes some of the leadership posturing of his lately a little hollow.

K Major 11-10-2016 08:20 PM

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https://media.giphy.com/media/13FEDUyROIUrDy/source.gif

st thomas 11-10-2016 08:32 PM

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nooooooooooooooooo-commmmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnnnttttttttttttt. ok just a little one. goodel where were you about 2 months ago. aha aha, thats all ur honor.

K Major 11-10-2016 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 726749)
Seriously, how selfish he is to do something like that.

If this isn't prescribed then I would agree ...selfish and dumb. ALL players know that this is banned.

To be continued.

burningmetal 11-10-2016 09:27 PM

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Why is Adderall banned, anyway? Since when is a drug used to treat hyperactivity considered a performance enhancer? For the record, I am not a fan of that drug, as it seems to turn people into zombies when they're on it. It's hardly anything that should help anyone on the field.

Kenny shouldn't be taking it if it's banned, for the sake of the team, but this is kind of dumb. And as others have already said, who knows what he actually took.

QBREES9 11-10-2016 09:47 PM

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Great .........

Crusader 11-10-2016 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 726771)
Why is Adderall banned, anyway? Since when is a drug used to treat hyperactivity considered a performance enhancer? For the record, I am not a fan of that drug, as it seems to turn people into zombies when they're on it. It's hardly anything that should help anyone on the field.

Kenny shouldn't be taking it if it's banned, for the sake of the team, but this is kind of dumb. And as others have already said, who knows what he actually took.

Its banned because it is calming. Has the potential to make you less nervous etc.

nola_swammi 11-10-2016 11:34 PM

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It also physically enhance your muscles, strength, and endurance with a lot of side effects that can affect your heart and brain if you abuse drugs not to mention it is highly addictive. The drug is used for adhd patients that minds seems to wonder off or simply have a hard time paying attention. If you have kids in sports I highly recommend you keep them away from this drug, the side effects are not worth it.

burningmetal 11-11-2016 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Crusader (Post 726781)
Its banned because it is calming. Has the potential to make you less nervous etc.

I know what it does, that's why I said it's used to treat hyper activity. But more than making you calm, it just makes people sluggish. I knew some people years ago who had a child who was super hyper (imagine that) and they put her on adderall for some reason. That poor little girl looked like someone put a computer chip in her brain and programmed her to be silent. I haven't seen those people in years, and they might have thought they were helping her, but I hated seeing that.

With that in mind, I don't believe for a second that it helps you perform. He shouldn't take it if it's banned, period. We can't afford to have him suspended. And I don't think anyone should take that drug, simply because it is really not good for anyone. But it's not a steroid, and it's not cocaine. I still don't get why it's on the banned list.

The fact that Kenny (might) have knowingly taken a drug he knew was banned is of course a different subject.

claus808 11-11-2016 01:13 AM

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Adderal effects everyone differently. I can pop some and go out drinking all night, basically cracked out... Some take it and just zone out and focus. If Vacarro was prescribed Adderal, I don't see a problem. PRESCRIBED. Even then... I don't see how it would have that big of an effect on his game.

jeanpierre 11-11-2016 03:15 AM

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If Vaccaro screwed up, fine; but the animosity from the Goodell-led League Office toward the Saints is ridiculous and made evident with this slight...

Too bad Benson's a geriatic infant managed by a gold-digger and a sniveling CPA; we really need leadership from the owner on several fronts - mostly we need a strong owner to take the Commissioner to task...

Team should have been informed before a public announcement...

All teams should be treated the same; but obviously "some (teams) are more equal than others..."


dizzle88 11-11-2016 03:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 726771)
Why is Adderall banned, anyway? Since when is a drug used to treat hyperactivity considered a performance enhancer? For the record, I am not a fan of that drug, as it seems to turn people into zombies when they're on it. It's hardly anything that should help anyone on the field.

Kenny shouldn't be taking it if it's banned, for the sake of the team, but this is kind of dumb. And as others have already said, who knows what he actually took.

Its been found to lower reaction time so players are more focused and can react quicker, no wonder Kenny had been making plays on the ball more often this year.

xan 11-11-2016 07:14 AM

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Adderall is an amphetamine based drug. Amphetamines are known performance enhancers. This particular amphetamine has activity that increases brain activity around one block of thoughts - hyperfocusing - which is good for people who have a hard time keeping their focus on tasks at hand. In this way, it acts as a double performance enhancer.

It is a very dangerous drug. Like any amphetamine, it disrupts endocrine balances and causes dopamine and norepinephrine levels in the brain to fluctuate greatly. It also has high potential for addiction.

Unfortunately, performance benefits on focus and memory are not sustainable or permanent. It is a short term solution to behavioral problems and is overused because of misinformation and "underground" non-clinically verified anecdotal "successes".

I agree with everyone who has said above

STUPID.

AsylumGuido 11-11-2016 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 726745)

Did any of you read this story that WhoDat!656 posted? Vacarro isn't facing any suspension at this point. The NFL violated the confidentiality clauses of the testing policy. There is not supposed to be ANY reporting of violations until after both samples have been tested AND an appeal has been heard AND denied. None of this has happened. We also do not know when this sample was taken. It could have been at any period, even pre-season.

Once again, if you take the time and read the article it mentions that the NFLPA has been waiting for the opportunity to challenge the league office over the policy for some time. It says that this may be the perfect opportunity. That said, even IF Vacarro's second sample also fails it could be months before it ever reaches the point of a suspension.

This is exactly why the confidentiality clause is in place. People are condemning the player when he has not even been convicted.

Pump your brakes, people. Chill out.

AsylumGuido 11-11-2016 08:11 AM

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Also, consider the initial source of the report ... Ian Rapoport. This clown has swung and missed more than any so-called insider ever.


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