Saints one game away from bottom of division
 

Where did it go so wrong...

Jameis Winston looked comfortable against a D that Brees literally crapped his pants against.

Bucs came up with turnovers in crucial spots, something that we couldn't do.

Bucs receivers are physical and can get away from coverage whereas ours are small, gadget players.

The bucs looked for the open man, not having every pass being forced to a predetermined player based on "concepts" and "mismatches"

So...Sean Payton....how did you get a 5 year extension again?

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What has happened to our offense?

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Will,
Chris pointed this out to you in a previous post.

Total offense:Saints rank #1st
Passing yds : Saints rank #1st
Run blocking:Saints rank #2nd (according to PFF)
Pass blocking:Saints rank 9th
Points per game:Saints rank 4th
Red zone scoring per game:Saints #1st

Nothing has happened to our offense.

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Non - offensive TD's p/g:Saints rank #30th
Opponents kick offs p/g:Saints rank #30th
Opponent f/g conversion %:Saints rank 25th
Opponent touchbacks p/g:Saints rank 28th

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...backs-per-game

The question should be what has happened to our special teams play.

This team with a good S/T, is 7-3 right now.

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How would Brees have done at KC with Evans instead of Cooks? Cooks can't do what Evans can do. Otherwise, how does a dbag like Winston move down the field against a top defense with just one WR and one TE making plays constantly? Yeah they stalled and held to FGs but top defenses care more about keeping you out of the endzone.

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You know Marcus Peters was out today for the Chiefs right?

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So if Peters played that doesn't happen? Idk, I have seen big receivers beat Peters before. Peters also does not defense number ones that well he would have likely been on the other receiver. I don't think it changes the outcome.

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In all fairness their turnovers have been a back breaker
Brees pick 6 in KC killed us

Not to mention they have committed 6 turnovers in the last two games.

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Drew does this every year. tanks two or three games.

take solace in the fact we were still in it and the defense did what they could to stop the bleeding.

on the bright side we moved from 18th to 10th on the draft list. bright side?

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I'll say it again... thank goodness for fantasy football.

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This is Cooks' third year, he should already have known a lot. He did get hurt in 2014 but he was only hurt in the second half that season and still learned things on the bench. He makes big deep plays at times but it's time for him to really step up. We should really get away from the TE offense, it does not work for us. We should employ Cooks, Thomas, Snead more than the rest because volume equals productions.

ODB and Evans are afraid of no corner. I don't know if Cooks is a true number one.

Also, we're not using Thomas as advertized. He was supposed to be our slot receiver. Instead he's used as a wideout. They are running a different offense that Brees is not used to operating. Brees is not throwing over the middle as much which has been his strength. He's not known for his left/right throws.

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They are using Cooks, Thomas and Snead more than the TEs.
All three of them individually have more targets than Fleener and Hill.

Cooks, Thomas, Snead - 212 targets
Fleener and Hill - 68 targets

That's the lowest percentage of TE targets the Saints have had since 2008.

And I don't think Cooks is afraid of any particular corners either. He doesn't have as many targets as OBJ or Evans but he does have a higher catch percentage.

Cooks - 68.0%
OBJ - 60.2%
Evans - 53.7%

And since Cooks has a higher yards per reception, it's easy to extrapolate out the numbers and conclude that if he had the same number of targets as the other two, he'd have more yards than either.

I don't think it's a matter of Cooks not being a true #1, I think it has much more to do with the fact that Brees has better second and third choice options than Winston or Manning have. Thomas and Snead have been much better this season than Sterling Shepard and Victor Cruz for the Giants and Adam Humphries and Cameron Brate for the Bucs. I don't know if you're a believer in PFFs grading system but by their grading, the Saints are the only team this season to have 3 receivers grade out at over 80.

I'm not sure about the "different offense" but Brees is completing 71.0% of his passes this year. A 71 percent completion rate for a season has only been done once in the history of the NFL. (Brees 71.2% 2011). So I'd say he's doing pretty well at his "left/right" throws.