Saints one game away from bottom of division

dizzle88 · 11-20-2016, 08:18 PM

Where did it go so wrong...

Jameis Winston looked comfortable against a D that Brees literally crapped his pants against.

Bucs came up with turnovers in crucial spots, something that we couldn't do.

Bucs receivers are physical and can get away from coverage whereas ours are small, gadget players.

The bucs looked for the open man, not having every pass being forced to a predetermined player based on "concepts" and "mismatches"

So...Sean Payton....how did you get a 5 year extension again?

WillSaints81 · 11-20-2016, 09:09 PM

What has happened to our offense?

K Major · 11-20-2016, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

What has happened to our offense?

Will,
Chris pointed this out to you in a previous post.

Total offense:Saints rank #1st
Passing yds : Saints rank #1st
Run blocking:Saints rank #2nd (according to PFF)
Pass blocking:Saints rank 9th
Points per game:Saints rank 4th
Red zone scoring per game:Saints #1st

Nothing has happened to our offense.

K Major · 11-20-2016, 10:02 PM

Non - offensive TD's p/g:Saints rank #30th
Opponents kick offs p/g:Saints rank #30th
Opponent f/g conversion %:Saints rank 25th
Opponent touchbacks p/g:Saints rank 28th

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...backs-per-game

The question should be what has happened to our special teams play.

This team with a good S/T, is 7-3 right now.

WillSaints81 · 11-20-2016, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Will,
Chris pointed this out to you in a previous post.

Total offense:Saints rank #1st
Passing yds : Saints rank #1st
Run blocking:Saints rank #2nd (according to PFF)
Pass blocking:Saints rank 9th
Points per game:Saints rank 4th
Red zone scoring per game:Saints #1st

Nothing has happened to our offense.

How would Brees have done at KC with Evans instead of Cooks? Cooks can't do what Evans can do. Otherwise, how does a dbag like Winston move down the field against a top defense with just one WR and one TE making plays constantly? Yeah they stalled and held to FGs but top defenses care more about keeping you out of the endzone.

ChrisXVI · 11-20-2016, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

How would Brees have done at KC with Evans instead of Cooks? Cooks can't do what Evans can do. Otherwise, how does a dbag like Winston move down the field against a top defense with just one WR and one TE making plays constantly? Yeah they stalled and held to FGs but top defenses care more about keeping you out of the endzone.

You know Marcus Peters was out today for the Chiefs right?

WillSaints81 · 11-21-2016, 12:41 AM

So if Peters played that doesn't happen? Idk, I have seen big receivers beat Peters before. Peters also does not defense number ones that well he would have likely been on the other receiver. I don't think it changes the outcome.

dizzle88 · 11-21-2016, 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Will,
Chris pointed this out to you in a previous post.

Total offense:Saints rank #1st
Passing yds : Saints rank #1st
Run blocking:Saints rank #2nd (according to PFF)
Pass blocking:Saints rank 9th
Points per game:Saints rank 4th
Red zone scoring per game:Saints #1st

Nothing has happened to our offense.

In all fairness their turnovers have been a back breaker
Brees pick 6 in KC killed us

Not to mention they have committed 6 turnovers in the last two games.

hagan714 · 11-21-2016, 09:13 AM

Drew does this every year. tanks two or three games.

take solace in the fact we were still in it and the defense did what they could to stop the bleeding.

on the bright side we moved from 18th to 10th on the draft list. bright side?

SmashMouth · 11-21-2016, 09:41 AM

11-20-2016, 10:02 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints one game away from bottom of division Non - offensive TD's p/g:Saints rank #30th Opponents kick offs p/g:Saints rank #30th Opponent f/g conversion %:Saints rank 25th Opponent touchbacks p/g:Saints rank 28th https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/sta...backs-per-game The question should be what has happened to our special teams play. This team with a good S/T, is 7-3 right now.

11-20-2016, 10:17 PM	#5
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Saints one game away from bottom of division Originally Posted by K Major Will, Chris pointed this out to you in a previous post. Total offense:Saints rank #1st Passing yds : Saints rank #1st Run blocking:Saints rank #2nd (according to PFF) Pass blocking:Saints rank 9th Points per game:Saints rank 4th Red zone scoring per game:Saints #1st Nothing has happened to our offense. How would Brees have done at KC with Evans instead of Cooks? Cooks can't do what Evans can do. Otherwise, how does a dbag like Winston move down the field against a top defense with just one WR and one TE making plays constantly? Yeah they stalled and held to FGs but top defenses care more about keeping you out of the endzone.

11-20-2016, 10:42 PM	#6
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Saints one game away from bottom of division Originally Posted by WillSaints81 How would Brees have done at KC with Evans instead of Cooks? Cooks can't do what Evans can do. Otherwise, how does a dbag like Winston move down the field against a top defense with just one WR and one TE making plays constantly? Yeah they stalled and held to FGs but top defenses care more about keeping you out of the endzone. You know Marcus Peters was out today for the Chiefs right?

11-21-2016, 12:41 AM	#7
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Saints one game away from bottom of division So if Peters played that doesn't happen? Idk, I have seen big receivers beat Peters before. Peters also does not defense number ones that well he would have likely been on the other receiver. I don't think it changes the outcome.

11-21-2016, 01:37 AM	#8
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Saints one game away from bottom of division Originally Posted by K Major Will, Chris pointed this out to you in a previous post. Total offense:Saints rank #1st Passing yds : Saints rank #1st Run blocking:Saints rank #2nd (according to PFF) Pass blocking:Saints rank 9th Points per game:Saints rank 4th Red zone scoring per game:Saints #1st Nothing has happened to our offense. In all fairness their turnovers have been a back breaker Brees pick 6 in KC killed us Not to mention they have committed 6 turnovers in the last two games. RailBoss likes this.

11-20-2016, 08:18 PM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Saints one game away from bottom of division Where did it go so wrong... Jameis Winston looked comfortable against a D that Brees literally crapped his pants against. Bucs came up with turnovers in crucial spots, something that we couldn't do. Bucs receivers are physical and can get away from coverage whereas ours are small, gadget players. The bucs looked for the open man, not having every pass being forced to a predetermined player based on "concepts" and "mismatches" So...Sean Payton....how did you get a 5 year extension again?

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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Saints one game away from bottom of division What has happened to our offense?

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints one game away from bottom of division Originally Posted by WillSaints81 What has happened to our offense? Will, Chris pointed this out to you in a previous post. Total offense:Saints rank #1st Passing yds : Saints rank #1st Run blocking:Saints rank #2nd (according to PFF) Pass blocking:Saints rank 9th Points per game:Saints rank 4th Red zone scoring per game:Saints #1st Nothing has happened to our offense.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints one game away from bottom of division Drew does this every year. tanks two or three games. take solace in the fact we were still in it and the defense did what they could to stop the bleeding. on the bright side we moved from 18th to 10th on the draft list. bright side? dizzle88 likes this.

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