RUMOR CENTRAL: Saints to Trade for Jimmy Garoppolo?

vpheughan · 11-24-2016, 07:57 PM

"Theoretically, they may like Garoppolo better than anyone in what’s expected to be a mediocre QB......."

Two names: Matt Cassel and Brian Hoyer. Buyer Beware.

RailBoss · 11-24-2016, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

I think Hoyer is underrated too, but IMO he is a streaky QB. For a stretch of games he looked outstanding in Cleveland (which is extremely hard to do), but then he can go through stretches where teams are almost forced to bench him.

Hoyer is 31 and a Journeyman who has gone through some brutal teams.
Seem's you would need a great deal of Psychotherapy to clean his slate.
That said he would probably flourish working with Drew. I'm most likely
half blind but I don't see it.

MatthewT · 11-25-2016, 08:02 AM

I would wait, the draft pick that it will take to land Garoppolo is needed in other areas. Address the situation once Brees starts to decline, or decides he wants out.

lumm0x · 11-25-2016, 12:22 PM

Garoppolo could be a hot commodity given the next draft class. The list of potential FA QB's are full of known commodities past their prime or mediocre players. I can see a half dozen teams kicking the tires on this guy and we would have to give up a bundle. I can totally see us being interested in we 100% believe next year is Drew's last with the Saints regardless of performance. But he's still at his age way better than most QB's in the game. I say wait til next year's draft class and/or FA squad to make the decision.

hagan714 · 11-25-2016, 04:35 PM

Jimmy Garoppolo for Stephone Anthony?

If your rolling the dice on a young kid that is groomed in a system that is close to one you run the pats are about the only team. Drew Vs Tom as a mentor? Pretty much a Draw.

I know pats fans will warm up to the trade quickly.

Garry42 · 11-26-2016, 09:40 AM

For the record, I like Jimmy Garappolo's game. Wouldn't be a bad option.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't mind this idea as long as we don't have to mortgage the farm! I can't see the Pats letting him go cheap though....

vpheughan · 11-26-2016, 10:25 AM

The History of Drafted QB's (under Bill Belichick):
With the exception of Tom Brady not a very good track record.

Tom Brady (Sixth round 2000, 199th pick)

Rohan Davey (Fourth round 2002, 117th pick)
Was released in August 2005 with no return.

Kliff Kingsbury (Sixth round 2003, 201st pick)
Spent his rookie year on IR and was released by September 2004.

Matt Cassel (Seventh round 2005, 230th pick)
Started for an injured Brady in 2008, and was then traded to the Kansas City Chiefs for a second-round pick (used to draft Patrick Chung).

Kevin O’Connell (Third round 2008, 94th overall)
Made it through one training camp and was released in 2009.

Zac Robinson (Seventh round 2010, 250th pick)
Released by September 2010.

Ryan Mallett (Third round 2011, 74th overall)
After three seasons in New England, Mallett was traded to Houston for a 2016 seventh-round pick. They flipped that pick to the Seahawks in a deal for a 2017 fourth-round pick.

Jimmy Garoppolo (Second round 2014, 62nd overall
Garoppolo has looked promising in his brief time under center.

Euphoria · 11-26-2016, 05:36 PM

I can't see trading for a QB when we need players in so many other positions.

QBREES9 · 11-26-2016, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

The History of Drafted QB's (under Bill Belichick):
With the exception of Tom Brady not a very good track record.

Tom Brady (Sixth round 2000, 199th pick)

Rohan Davey (Fourth round 2002, 117th pick)
Was released in August 2005 with no return.

Kliff Kingsbury (Sixth round 2003, 201st pick)
Spent his rookie year on IR and was released by September 2004.

Matt Cassel (Seventh round 2005, 230th pick)
Started for an injured Brady in 2008, and was then traded to the Kansas City Chiefs for a second-round pick (used to draft Patrick Chung).

Kevin O’Connell (Third round 2008, 94th overall)
Made it through one training camp and was released in 2009.

Zac Robinson (Seventh round 2010, 250th pick)
Released by September 2010.

Ryan Mallett (Third round 2011, 74th overall)
After three seasons in New England, Mallett was traded to Houston for a 2016 seventh-round pick. They flipped that pick to the Seahawks in a deal for a 2017 fourth-round pick.

Jimmy Garoppolo (Second round 2014, 62nd overall
Garoppolo has looked promising in his brief time under center.

This is a great History lesson

saintsfan1976 · 11-27-2016, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

"Theoretically, they may like Garoppolo better than anyone in what’s expected to be a mediocre QB......."

Two names: Matt Cassel and Brian Hoyer. Buyer Beware.

Neither of which are coached by Sean Payton...

I seeem to recall a "buyer beware" tag placed on a certain young San Diego QB.

11-24-2016, 07:57 PM	#11
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: RUMOR CENTRAL: Saints to Trade for Jimmy Garoppolo? "Theoretically, they may like Garoppolo better than anyone in what’s expected to be a mediocre QB......." Two names: Matt Cassel and Brian Hoyer. Buyer Beware.
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RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: RUMOR CENTRAL: Saints to Trade for Jimmy Garoppolo? Originally Posted by neugey I think Hoyer is underrated too, but IMO he is a streaky QB. For a stretch of games he looked outstanding in Cleveland (which is extremely hard to do), but then he can go through stretches where teams are almost forced to bench him. Hoyer is 31 and a Journeyman who has gone through some brutal teams. Seem's you would need a great deal of Psychotherapy to clean his slate. That said he would probably flourish working with Drew. I'm most likely half blind but I don't see it.

11-25-2016, 08:02 AM	#13
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11-25-2016, 04:35 PM	#15
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: RUMOR CENTRAL: Saints to Trade for Jimmy Garoppolo? Jimmy Garoppolo for Stephone Anthony? If your rolling the dice on a young kid that is groomed in a system that is close to one you run the pats are about the only team. Drew Vs Tom as a mentor? Pretty much a Draw. I know pats fans will warm up to the trade quickly. dizzle88 likes this.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: RUMOR CENTRAL: Saints to Trade for Jimmy Garoppolo? The History of Drafted QB's (under Bill Belichick): With the exception of Tom Brady not a very good track record. Tom Brady (Sixth round 2000, 199th pick) Rohan Davey (Fourth round 2002, 117th pick) Was released in August 2005 with no return. Kliff Kingsbury (Sixth round 2003, 201st pick) Spent his rookie year on IR and was released by September 2004. Matt Cassel (Seventh round 2005, 230th pick) Started for an injured Brady in 2008, and was then traded to the Kansas City Chiefs for a second-round pick (used to draft Patrick Chung). Kevin O’Connell (Third round 2008, 94th overall) Made it through one training camp and was released in 2009. Zac Robinson (Seventh round 2010, 250th pick) Released by September 2010. Ryan Mallett (Third round 2011, 74th overall) After three seasons in New England, Mallett was traded to Houston for a 2016 seventh-round pick. They flipped that pick to the Seahawks in a deal for a 2017 fourth-round pick. Jimmy Garoppolo (Second round 2014, 62nd overall Garoppolo has looked promising in his brief time under center. hagan714, QBREES9 and 44Champs like this.
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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: RUMOR CENTRAL: Saints to Trade for Jimmy Garoppolo? Originally Posted by vpheughan The History of Drafted QB's (under Bill Belichick): With the exception of Tom Brady not a very good track record. Tom Brady (Sixth round 2000, 199th pick) Rohan Davey (Fourth round 2002, 117th pick) Was released in August 2005 with no return. Kliff Kingsbury (Sixth round 2003, 201st pick) Spent his rookie year on IR and was released by September 2004. Matt Cassel (Seventh round 2005, 230th pick) Started for an injured Brady in 2008, and was then traded to the Kansas City Chiefs for a second-round pick (used to draft Patrick Chung). Kevin O’Connell (Third round 2008, 94th overall) Made it through one training camp and was released in 2009. Zac Robinson (Seventh round 2010, 250th pick) Released by September 2010. Ryan Mallett (Third round 2011, 74th overall) After three seasons in New England, Mallett was traded to Houston for a 2016 seventh-round pick. They flipped that pick to the Seahawks in a deal for a 2017 fourth-round pick. Jimmy Garoppolo (Second round 2014, 62nd overall Garoppolo has looked promising in his brief time under center. This is a great History lesson hagan714 and SmashMouth like this.

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