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KIsland 11-30-2016 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 728779)
So we should be content losing? Who cares what record the saints use to have. I use to crap my pants but stopped that 2 weeks ago. No way I'll settle for 4 years of 7-9 or 5-11.

Wait how many times have you posted here??? Because if this is your first post Danno will have some things to say to you.

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AsylumGuido 11-30-2016 08:20 AM

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I'm not happy with 7-9 either, but I'm also not sure that the blame could be slapped solely upon Payton. Those records were based completely upon poor defense, shaky special teams and a slew of injuries. While some of this can be attributed to coaching choices in the past, it does not detract from the fact that the Saints have had the best offense in the league for the past decade.

Personally, I really like the direction the defense is going under Dennis Allen and there are still quite a few key pieces missing due to injury.

It reminds me of the old saying about throwing the baby out with the bath water. Sean Payton is perhaps the best thing that has happened to the Saints from a coaching perspective in the last 50 years. It is quite possible that those 7-9 records would have been 4-12 with ANY available head coach in the same position AND I like the Saints chances moving forward FAR more with Payton at the helm than any other unknown. Another old saying ... watch out what you wish for, you may get it.

Danno 11-30-2016 09:17 AM

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If you had told me going into the season that we'd lose our top 5 CB's, arguably our top outside LB, our best TE, and our 1st round draft pick who was counted on to push the pocket, and our all-pro LT missing 1/2 the games, I would have predicted 6 wins max.

We didn't just suffer a few injuries, we suffered an extraordinary amount of injuries.

The Dude 11-30-2016 02:02 PM

Re: Bandwagon Fans
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 728804)
If you had told me going into the season that we'd lose our top 5 CB's, arguably our top outside LB, our best TE, and our 1st round draft pick who was counted on to push the pocket, and our all-pro LT missing 1/2 the games, I would have predicted 6 wins max.

We didn't just suffer a few injuries, we suffered an extraordinary amount of injuries.

And our defense is middle of the pack over the past few games. That's a huge improvement. We might have a pretty damn scary defense.

voodooido 12-01-2016 12:06 AM

Re: Bandwagon Fans
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 728796)
I'm not happy with 7-9 either, but I'm also not sure that the blame could be slapped solely upon Payton. Those records were based completely upon poor defense, shaky special teams and a slew of injuries. While some of this can be attributed to coaching choices in the past, it does not detract from the fact that the Saints have had the best offense in the league for the past decade.

Personally, I really like the direction the defense is going under Dennis Allen and there are still quite a few key pieces missing due to injury.

It reminds me of the old saying about throwing the baby out with the bath water. Sean Payton is perhaps the best thing that has happened to the Saints from a coaching perspective in the last 50 years. It is quite possible that those 7-9 records would have been 4-12 with ANY available head coach in the same position AND I like the Saints chances moving forward FAR more with Payton at the helm than any other unknown. Another old saying ... watch out what you wish for, you may get it.

I agree with the poor defense comment but who built the defenses? He was head coach during those pickups too.


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