For the Sky is falling crowd

RailBoss · 12-05-2016, 01:28 PM

Drew is 37 soon to be 38 in January not a Spring Chicken anymore.
He's not running anywhere and the DC's all know it. He relies on his
arm strength and passing accuracy at this point in time. Hard to do
when he is in the clutches of big angry players who want to rip his
head off who blow by our blockers.
His height is listed at 6′ 0″ but I always wonder if that's with lifts in his shoes.

Rugby Saint II · 12-05-2016, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by RailBoss

Drew is 37 soon to be 38 in January not a Spring Chicken anymore.
He's not running anywhere and the DC's all know it. He relies on his
arm strength and passing accuracy at this point in time. Hard to do
when he is in the clutches of big angry players who want to rip his
head off who blow by our blockers.
His height is listed at 6′ 0″ but I always wonder if that's with lifts in his shoes.

There again is the problem with poor drafting. No depth if Kelemete and Lelito don't step up which they didn't.

Cruize · 12-05-2016, 05:58 PM

The team has more talent than it's record shows.

skymike · 12-05-2016, 07:37 PM

another SH** year.
vastly disappointed. at this point no one is sacred to me.

WillSaints81 · 12-05-2016, 11:17 PM

I'm so tired of blaming bounty gate. This team gave away contributing players during the 2014 offseason..........all because their defense was not better than Seattle's. That is what set this team back........Seattle. We had no leader planned when we got rid of Vilma. We let Jenkins, Harper, Greer, Smith go as well. That's how you lose a defense when you let all of that go. And then underestimated the loss of BDLP at center by not even trying to draft one.

The problem was we had the fire at home in 2013(we had tough road games) but Seattle stole SP's thunder. We did address the one offensive need that offseason but then we see Colston does not regain his pre-2013 form. Which made losing Moore a bad decision.

That offseason put us in this mess.

neugey · 12-06-2016, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

I'm so tired of blaming bounty gate. This team gave away contributing players during the 2014 offseason..........all because their defense was not better than Seattle's. That is what set this team back........Seattle. We had no leader planned when we got rid of Vilma. We let Jenkins, Harper, Greer, Smith go as well. That's how you lose a defense when you let all of that go. And then underestimated the loss of BDLP at center by not even trying to draft one.

The problem was we had the fire at home in 2013(we had tough road games) but Seattle stole SP's thunder. We did address the one offensive need that offseason but then we see Colston does not regain his pre-2013 form. Which made losing Moore a bad decision.

That offseason put us in this mess.

I think we could construct a blame timeline. Maybe not accurate but you get the idea -
2010-2012 - Super Bowl hangover
2012-2013 - Bountygate
2013-2014 - Beastmode hangover
2014-2015 - dead money
2015-2016 - Rob Ryan
2016-present - special teams

jonnyrotten · 12-06-2016, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

I think we could construct a blame timeline. Maybe not accurate but you get the idea -
2010-2012 - Super Bowl hangover
2012-2013 - Bountygate
2013-2014 - Beastmode hangover
2014-2015 - dead money
2015-2016 - Rob Ryan
2016-present - special teams

I could be wrong but I feel like the dead money was multiple years.

Rugby Saint II · 12-06-2016, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by jonnyrotten

I could be wrong but I feel like the dead money was multiple years.

We've had dead money issues since we developed the "win now" mentality. That was long before we knew just how durable Drew was. We also didn't understand his longevity and how long Drew would be around.

But as I understand it we are coming out of salary cap Hell and can invest our funds(hopefully wisely) to produce a productive offseason and a stronger team. We shall see............

WillSaints81 · 12-05-2016, 11:18 PM

As for those injured guys.....I'm not banking on them. They'll get hurt again. Time to move on from them(except Kikaha).

ChrisXVI · 12-06-2016, 06:59 PM

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12-05-2016, 01:28 PM	#1
RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: For the Sky is falling crowd Drew is 37 soon to be 38 in January not a Spring Chicken anymore. He's not running anywhere and the DC's all know it. He relies on his arm strength and passing accuracy at this point in time. Hard to do when he is in the clutches of big angry players who want to rip his head off who blow by our blockers. His height is listed at 6′ 0″ but I always wonder if that's with lifts in his shoes.

12-05-2016, 01:35 PM	#2
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,151	Re: For the Sky is falling crowd Originally Posted by RailBoss Drew is 37 soon to be 38 in January not a Spring Chicken anymore. He's not running anywhere and the DC's all know it. He relies on his arm strength and passing accuracy at this point in time. Hard to do when he is in the clutches of big angry players who want to rip his head off who blow by our blockers. His height is listed at 6′ 0″ but I always wonder if that's with lifts in his shoes. There again is the problem with poor drafting. No depth if Kelemete and Lelito don't step up which they didn't. hagan714 likes this.

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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: For the Sky is falling crowd I'm so tired of blaming bounty gate. This team gave away contributing players during the 2014 offseason..........all because their defense was not better than Seattle's. That is what set this team back........Seattle. We had no leader planned when we got rid of Vilma. We let Jenkins, Harper, Greer, Smith go as well. That's how you lose a defense when you let all of that go. And then underestimated the loss of BDLP at center by not even trying to draft one. The problem was we had the fire at home in 2013(we had tough road games) but Seattle stole SP's thunder. We did address the one offensive need that offseason but then we see Colston does not regain his pre-2013 form. Which made losing Moore a bad decision. That offseason put us in this mess. neugey, jonnyrotten and hagan714 like this.

12-06-2016, 01:33 PM	#6
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,857 Blog Entries: 13	Re: For the Sky is falling crowd Originally Posted by WillSaints81 I'm so tired of blaming bounty gate. This team gave away contributing players during the 2014 offseason..........all because their defense was not better than Seattle's. That is what set this team back........Seattle. We had no leader planned when we got rid of Vilma. We let Jenkins, Harper, Greer, Smith go as well. That's how you lose a defense when you let all of that go. And then underestimated the loss of BDLP at center by not even trying to draft one. The problem was we had the fire at home in 2013(we had tough road games) but Seattle stole SP's thunder. We did address the one offensive need that offseason but then we see Colston does not regain his pre-2013 form. Which made losing Moore a bad decision. That offseason put us in this mess. I think we could construct a blame timeline. Maybe not accurate but you get the idea - 2010-2012 - Super Bowl hangover 2012-2013 - Bountygate 2013-2014 - Beastmode hangover 2014-2015 - dead money 2015-2016 - Rob Ryan 2016-present - special teams Rugby Saint II likes this.

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jonnyrotten 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 512	Re: For the Sky is falling crowd Originally Posted by neugey I think we could construct a blame timeline. Maybe not accurate but you get the idea - 2010-2012 - Super Bowl hangover 2012-2013 - Bountygate 2013-2014 - Beastmode hangover 2014-2015 - dead money 2015-2016 - Rob Ryan 2016-present - special teams I could be wrong but I feel like the dead money was multiple years. RailBoss and Rugby Saint II like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,151	Re: For the Sky is falling crowd Originally Posted by jonnyrotten I could be wrong but I feel like the dead money was multiple years. We've had dead money issues since we developed the "win now" mentality. That was long before we knew just how durable Drew was. We also didn't understand his longevity and how long Drew would be around. But as I understand it we are coming out of salary cap Hell and can invest our funds(hopefully wisely) to produce a productive offseason and a stronger team. We shall see............

12-05-2016, 11:18 PM	#9
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: For the Sky is falling crowd As for those injured guys.....I'm not banking on them. They'll get hurt again. Time to move on from them(except Kikaha). hagan714 likes this.

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