If SP gets fired who do we want to replace him?

Utah_Saint · 12-06-2016, 02:42 PM

Les Miles might be available.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 12-06-2016, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

So we should be happy with "middling" over the past 4 years? Another 7-9 or 6-10 season should seal his fate.

See my post above. While maybe it should, Benson, Loomis, Payton, and Brees are thick as thieves because they all made it to the mountaintop together. So it won't.

And again there is no guarantee that the post Payton/Brees era is going to be any better. Witness the fall of the 49ers.

Speaking of that, that brings up the one guy worth targeting: Jim Harbaugh. Throw the kitchen sink at him to get him to leave Michigan. Clean house, $12 million/year contract, total control of football operations. That's the one guy in the profession that has proved his worth coaching at the NFL level, but doesn't yet have the ring. And most importantly, he knows how to win in the NFL without an elite QB.

But I believe it's wishful thinking again. Harbaugh is in the position to be the next Schembeckler. I really cannot think of a reason why he'd ever want to leave.

SFIAH

jlouhill · 12-06-2016, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Be careful what you wish for. You may just get it handed to you.

SFIAH

That right there says it all.

SapperSaint · 12-06-2016, 05:06 PM

I am all for getting Nick Saban. That way, Bama sucks again and causing millions of Roll Damn Tide fans to fall into a deep, sheer and hopeless depression. (Sorry Danno)

Sean's not going anywhere, by the way.

Papa Voodoo · 12-06-2016, 05:13 PM

3 blocked kicks not getting blocked would have changed this whole season. I'm sure everyone remembers Hartley's 20 something yard miss in the dome against ATL that wound up costing us HFA? Sean has already made a move to improve special teams.

RaginCajun83 · 12-06-2016, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by jonnyrotten

replace Sean Payton with Sean Payton circa 2009.

Got that right

burningmetal · 12-06-2016, 07:45 PM

It has been quite clear for some time that Sean will not be fired.

But for the sake of entertainment, I have what I believe to be a plausible scenario if he did get fired. Mike McCarthy... Not super exciting, but there are plenty of reasons why it could happen.

From what I understand, McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers are not exactly the best of friends. Rodgers (if the numerous rumors have any truth) apparently thinks that he is the man in Green Bay, and that Mike is just an idiot who gets in his way. IF that is true, coupled with the somewhat rough season they have had, I could see the Packers moving on from McCarthy.

If Payton got fired, I think McCarthy might even want to leave Green Bay to take the Saints job, if offered, if his relationship with Rodgers is that toxic. He has history here, Benson knows him, and he is a good offensive guy who'd undoubtedly love to have a guy like Brees if he were to move on from GB.

I'd view it as somewhat of a lateral move on our part, but it might be one of those things where both Payton and McCarthy need a change of scenery to re-energize. I don't see the Saints trying anyone without NFL head coaching experience, as long as Brees is here.

But again, Payton will not be going anywhere. I would not be surprised if McCarthy does leave or get fired, though.

Tobias-Reiper · 12-06-2016, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

So we should be happy with "middling" over the past 4 years? Another 7-9 or 6-10 season should seal his fate.

No one is saying you should be anything. But consider this: you can speculate all you want as to who you want to be the next coach, but who do you trust to actually make such decision within the Saints organization? Tom Benson? Gayle Benson? Lauscha? Loomis? even Ireland? Who? Who's going to tell Benson who to hire, as Parcells did back in 2006?

Sure, the Saints seem to be on their way to their 3rd consecutive sub .500 season, but this could ( and I think it will) get really, really ugly once Payton is out of New Orleans. I just don't think there is anyone within the Saints organization who can make an effective hire at this time.

RailBoss · 12-06-2016, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

If by some slim chance SP is fired, it would probably be best to completely clean house and start over. I would take a long look at Raheem Morris and maybe Josh McDaniels.

I don't see either one but I would take Raheem over Josh (Son of Belichik)

RailBoss · 12-06-2016, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

It has been quite clear for some time that Sean will not be fired.

But for the sake of entertainment, I have what I believe to be a plausible scenario if he did get fired. Mike McCarthy... Not super exciting, but there are plenty of reasons why it could happen.

From what I understand, McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers are not exactly the best of friends. Rodgers (if the numerous rumors have any truth) apparently thinks that he is the man in Green Bay, and that Mike is just an idiot who gets in his way. IF that is true, coupled with the somewhat rough season they have had, I could see the Packers moving on from McCarthy.

If Payton got fired, I think McCarthy might even want to leave Green Bay to take the Saints job, if offered, if his relationship with Rodgers is that toxic. He has history here, Benson knows him, and he is a good offensive guy who'd undoubtedly love to have a guy like Brees if he were to move on from GB.

I'd view it as somewhat of a lateral move on our part, but it might be one of those things where both Payton and McCarthy need a change of scenery to re-energize. I don't see the Saints trying anyone without NFL head coaching experience, as long as Brees is here.

But again, Payton will not be going anywhere. I would not be surprised if McCarthy does leave or get fired, though.

Interesting outlook on McCarthy.....No frostbite in New Orleans

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SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,776	Re: If SP gets fired who do we want to replace him? Originally Posted by voodooido So we should be happy with "middling" over the past 4 years? Another 7-9 or 6-10 season should seal his fate. See my post above. While maybe it should, Benson, Loomis, Payton, and Brees are thick as thieves because they all made it to the mountaintop together. So it won't. And again there is no guarantee that the post Payton/Brees era is going to be any better. Witness the fall of the 49ers. Speaking of that, that brings up the one guy worth targeting: Jim Harbaugh. Throw the kitchen sink at him to get him to leave Michigan. Clean house, $12 million/year contract, total control of football operations. That's the one guy in the profession that has proved his worth coaching at the NFL level, but doesn't yet have the ring. And most importantly, he knows how to win in the NFL without an elite QB. But I believe it's wishful thinking again. Harbaugh is in the position to be the next Schembeckler. I really cannot think of a reason why he'd ever want to leave. SFIAH Rell&Gold likes this.
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jlouhill 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Denton, Tx. Posts: 692	Re: If SP gets fired who do we want to replace him? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Be careful what you wish for. You may just get it handed to you. SFIAH That right there says it all.

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burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: If SP gets fired who do we want to replace him? It has been quite clear for some time that Sean will not be fired. But for the sake of entertainment, I have what I believe to be a plausible scenario if he did get fired. Mike McCarthy... Not super exciting, but there are plenty of reasons why it could happen. From what I understand, McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers are not exactly the best of friends. Rodgers (if the numerous rumors have any truth) apparently thinks that he is the man in Green Bay, and that Mike is just an idiot who gets in his way. IF that is true, coupled with the somewhat rough season they have had, I could see the Packers moving on from McCarthy. If Payton got fired, I think McCarthy might even want to leave Green Bay to take the Saints job, if offered, if his relationship with Rodgers is that toxic. He has history here, Benson knows him, and he is a good offensive guy who'd undoubtedly love to have a guy like Brees if he were to move on from GB. I'd view it as somewhat of a lateral move on our part, but it might be one of those things where both Payton and McCarthy need a change of scenery to re-energize. I don't see the Saints trying anyone without NFL head coaching experience, as long as Brees is here. But again, Payton will not be going anywhere. I would not be surprised if McCarthy does leave or get fired, though. RailBoss and Rugby Saint II like this.
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Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: If SP gets fired who do we want to replace him? Originally Posted by voodooido So we should be happy with "middling" over the past 4 years? Another 7-9 or 6-10 season should seal his fate. No one is saying you should be anything. But consider this: you can speculate all you want as to who you want to be the next coach, but who do you trust to actually make such decision within the Saints organization? Tom Benson? Gayle Benson? Lauscha? Loomis? even Ireland? Who? Who's going to tell Benson who to hire, as Parcells did back in 2006? Sure, the Saints seem to be on their way to their 3rd consecutive sub .500 season, but this could ( and I think it will) get really, really ugly once Payton is out of New Orleans. I just don't think there is anyone within the Saints organization who can make an effective hire at this time. SaintFanInATLHELL and Rell&Gold like this.
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RailBoss 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Of The Mason Dixon Line Posts: 7,113	Re: If SP gets fired who do we want to replace him? Originally Posted by burningmetal It has been quite clear for some time that Sean will not be fired. But for the sake of entertainment, I have what I believe to be a plausible scenario if he did get fired. Mike McCarthy... Not super exciting, but there are plenty of reasons why it could happen. From what I understand, McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers are not exactly the best of friends. Rodgers (if the numerous rumors have any truth) apparently thinks that he is the man in Green Bay, and that Mike is just an idiot who gets in his way. IF that is true, coupled with the somewhat rough season they have had, I could see the Packers moving on from McCarthy. If Payton got fired, I think McCarthy might even want to leave Green Bay to take the Saints job, if offered, if his relationship with Rodgers is that toxic. He has history here, Benson knows him, and he is a good offensive guy who'd undoubtedly love to have a guy like Brees if he were to move on from GB. I'd view it as somewhat of a lateral move on our part, but it might be one of those things where both Payton and McCarthy need a change of scenery to re-energize. I don't see the Saints trying anyone without NFL head coaching experience, as long as Brees is here. But again, Payton will not be going anywhere. I would not be surprised if McCarthy does leave or get fired, though. Interesting outlook on McCarthy.....No frostbite in New Orleans

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