Harbaugh to Rams

K Major · 12-13-2016, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

They could not wait to get him out of San Francisco. I mean hate. Lots of hate. Dude is a tool, besides, Sean isn't going anywhere anyway.

Most of us realize SP is still the coach in NO (at least one more year). But I understand the point Spkb25 is making in regards to Jim Harbaugh. Yes the man is a head case, however he wins wherever he goes. Whether it is in college or the pros, he turns programs around ... quickly

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spkb25 · 12-13-2016, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

besides, Sean isn't going anywhere anyway.

well first of all if you look at another post I made it said that very thing. That is the reality because of his contract, but are you happy about that?

saintfan · 12-13-2016, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

well first of all if you look at another post I made it said that very thing. That is the reality because of his contract, but are you happy about that?

I am. I said in some other thread there are circumstances. Some weigh them more heavily than others. It's just a difference of opinion.

Originally Posted by K Major

Most of us realize SP is still the coach in NO (at least one more year). But I understand the point Spkb25 is making in regards to Jim Harbaugh. Yes the man is a head case, however he wins wherever he goes. Whether it is in college or the pros, he turns programs around ... quickly .

I know a guy. He just turned 59. He is THE most obnoxious guy to watch a game with if his Stupid Niners are playing. Oh the glory when we beat them. Anyway, this guy has the autographs, saved articles, photos of him with Niners legends. You ought to hear him rant (and rant and rant and rant some more) about how the head case infected the entire organization bottom to top. If the idea is to model the Patriots - and whether or not Sean is the guy - we don't want a head case like Harbaugh.

spkb25 · 12-13-2016, 09:45 PM

Originally Posted by saintfan

I am. I said in some other thread there are circumstances. Some weigh them more heavily than others. It's just a difference of opinion.

That's your opinion, man and nothing wrong with it. I hope you're right and Sean brings us from out of no where like in 09

Seer1 · 12-14-2016, 08:22 AM

Folks can throw a lot of statistics out because there's a lot of'em around to throw out. But take a closer look. Hairball turned around a college team in arguably the weakest league in the Big Five. wow

He then jumps ship to the whiners, inheriting a phenomenal amount of talent on the defensive side of the ball. He wins, wins wins until... oh wait, the players can get out of their contracts and go play for a coach who doesn't fine them for listening to music on the way home from games.

Who was the last coach fired for an eight and eight season after three trips deep into the playoffs? Who was the coach before hairball to have that happen?

Where does he keep his Super Bowl rings?
In an empty box.

Yes he "turned" Michigan around, but keep an eye on what happens to them in the next few years. He'll trash that program too.

I plan on rooting for the Saints for the rest of my life and I'd much rather see us hold out for a better man than what we'd get with him. I'd also prefer to see us in decent shape after three or four of a coach's tenure rather than what he'd leave in his wake.

How about a head coach instead of a head case?

spkb25 · 12-14-2016, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Folks can throw a lot of statistics out because there's a lot of'em around to throw out. But take a closer look. Hairball turned around a college team in arguably the weakest league in the Big Five. wow

He then jumps ship to the whiners, inheriting a phenomenal amount of talent on the defensive side of the ball. He wins, wins wins until... oh wait, the players can get out of their contracts and go play for a coach who doesn't fine them for listening to music on the way home from games.

Who was the last coach fired for an eight and eight season after three trips deep into the playoffs? Who was the coach before hairball to have that happen?

Where does he keep his Super Bowl rings?
In an empty box.

Yes he "turned" Michigan around, but keep an eye on what happens to them in the next few years. He'll trash that program too.

I plan on rooting for the Saints for the rest of my life and I'd much rather see us hold out for a better man than what we'd get with him. I'd also prefer to see us in decent shape after three or four of a coach's tenure rather than what he'd leave in his wake.

How about a head coach instead of a head case?

Well if we are going to throw out stats why not Richie Kotite? How about the guy that coaches the 49ers now, why not? Maybe throw a little Dennis Erickson in the mix.

I mean stats smats. Maybe he did that after they lost? Seems like playing for the Saints you get a golden turkey after you lose. You're right, that's much better.

Tobias-Reiper · 12-14-2016, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

What? What exactly has hardball really won? He does okay at Stanford for a bit then goes to the Whiners (perfect fit) and turns that organization into a pure mess.

2011 13-3 made it to the NFCCG
2012 11-4-1 won NFCCG.
2013 12-4 made it to the NFCCG
2014 8-8.

Wonder how many fan bases would love to have that pure mess playing in their stadium.

Seer1 · 12-14-2016, 11:15 AM

Fortunately, on many levels this discussion has become purely academic as even the idea of him going to the Rams was just a plot propagated by his many "enemies". You know other coaches, refs, the Niners fan base, etc...

I will say that as you look at his record, look at what he left behind. The now talentless team has gone 5-11 and 1-12 in the two years following his departure.

Cheers to you all, it's fun to have a friendly argument once in a while around here.

I don't mind Sean sticking around as I'm also sure he has at least one more year in him. I'd sure like to see many of his BFFs leave. I like to think we could really improve our W-L numbers with the players we have if they could just receive some better coaching from the second and third layer coaches.

Have great day all, and a Merry whatever it is you're celebrating this season!

Euphoria · 12-14-2016, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

What? What exactly has hardball really won? He does okay at Stanford for a bit then goes to the Whiners (perfect fit) and turns that organization into a pure mess. His players hated him, the owner hated him, the refs hated him (just ask him). He's a prozac poster boy. Besides, what makes you think his current owner (Urban Meyer) would let him go anyhow?

Chucky could be fun. He's had a few years to observe the game from on high. Mebbe he has a few new ideas.

actually didn't he get them to the SB and produced winning seasons? You can hate him all you like but he was winning... he left and they fall to ****.

Euphoria · 12-14-2016, 11:28 AM

actually I am ok staying the course.

I like what the Saints did this past off season. Draft they didn't focus on one area they drafted help in all areas of the team. Just need time for them to develop and stay the course. A knee jerk reaction isn't what is needed.

12-13-2016, 07:42 PM	#21
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Harbaugh to Rams Originally Posted by saintfan They could not wait to get him out of San Francisco. I mean hate. Lots of hate. Dude is a tool, besides, Sean isn't going anywhere anyway. Most of us realize SP is still the coach in NO (at least one more year). But I understand the point Spkb25 is making in regards to Jim Harbaugh. Yes the man is a head case, however he wins wherever he goes. Whether it is in college or the pros, he turns programs around ... quickly . spkb25 likes this.

12-13-2016, 08:47 PM	#22
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Harbaugh to Rams Originally Posted by saintfan besides, Sean isn't going anywhere anyway. well first of all if you look at another post I made it said that very thing. That is the reality because of his contract, but are you happy about that?

12-13-2016, 09:06 PM	#23
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Harbaugh to Rams Originally Posted by spkb25 well first of all if you look at another post I made it said that very thing. That is the reality because of his contract, but are you happy about that? I am. I said in some other thread there are circumstances. Some weigh them more heavily than others. It's just a difference of opinion. Originally Posted by K Major Most of us realize SP is still the coach in NO (at least one more year). But I understand the point Spkb25 is making in regards to Jim Harbaugh. Yes the man is a head case, however he wins wherever he goes. Whether it is in college or the pros, he turns programs around ... quickly . I know a guy. He just turned 59. He is THE most obnoxious guy to watch a game with if his Stupid Niners are playing. Oh the glory when we beat them. Anyway, this guy has the autographs, saved articles, photos of him with Niners legends. You ought to hear him rant (and rant and rant and rant some more) about how the head case infected the entire organization bottom to top. If the idea is to model the Patriots - and whether or not Sean is the guy - we don't want a head case like Harbaugh.
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12-13-2016, 09:45 PM	#24
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Harbaugh to Rams Originally Posted by saintfan I am. I said in some other thread there are circumstances. Some weigh them more heavily than others. It's just a difference of opinion. That's your opinion, man and nothing wrong with it. I hope you're right and Sean brings us from out of no where like in 09

12-14-2016, 08:22 AM	#25
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Harbaugh to Rams Folks can throw a lot of statistics out because there's a lot of'em around to throw out. But take a closer look. Hairball turned around a college team in arguably the weakest league in the Big Five. wow He then jumps ship to the whiners, inheriting a phenomenal amount of talent on the defensive side of the ball. He wins, wins wins until... oh wait, the players can get out of their contracts and go play for a coach who doesn't fine them for listening to music on the way home from games. Who was the last coach fired for an eight and eight season after three trips deep into the playoffs? Who was the coach before hairball to have that happen? Where does he keep his Super Bowl rings? In an empty box. Yes he "turned" Michigan around, but keep an eye on what happens to them in the next few years. He'll trash that program too. I plan on rooting for the Saints for the rest of my life and I'd much rather see us hold out for a better man than what we'd get with him. I'd also prefer to see us in decent shape after three or four of a coach's tenure rather than what he'd leave in his wake. How about a head coach instead of a head case?
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12-14-2016, 08:53 AM	#26
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Harbaugh to Rams Originally Posted by Seer1 Folks can throw a lot of statistics out because there's a lot of'em around to throw out. But take a closer look. Hairball turned around a college team in arguably the weakest league in the Big Five. wow He then jumps ship to the whiners, inheriting a phenomenal amount of talent on the defensive side of the ball. He wins, wins wins until... oh wait, the players can get out of their contracts and go play for a coach who doesn't fine them for listening to music on the way home from games. Who was the last coach fired for an eight and eight season after three trips deep into the playoffs? Who was the coach before hairball to have that happen? Where does he keep his Super Bowl rings? In an empty box. Yes he "turned" Michigan around, but keep an eye on what happens to them in the next few years. He'll trash that program too. I plan on rooting for the Saints for the rest of my life and I'd much rather see us hold out for a better man than what we'd get with him. I'd also prefer to see us in decent shape after three or four of a coach's tenure rather than what he'd leave in his wake. How about a head coach instead of a head case? Well if we are going to throw out stats why not Richie Kotite? How about the guy that coaches the 49ers now, why not? Maybe throw a little Dennis Erickson in the mix. I mean stats smats. Maybe he did that after they lost? Seems like playing for the Saints you get a golden turkey after you lose. You're right, that's much better.

12-14-2016, 09:00 AM	#27
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Harbaugh to Rams Originally Posted by Seer1 What? What exactly has hardball really won? He does okay at Stanford for a bit then goes to the Whiners (perfect fit) and turns that organization into a pure mess. 2011 13-3 made it to the NFCCG 2012 11-4-1 won NFCCG. 2013 12-4 made it to the NFCCG 2014 8-8. Wonder how many fan bases would love to have that pure mess playing in their stadium. spkb25 and K Major like this.

12-14-2016, 11:15 AM	#28
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Harbaugh to Rams Fortunately, on many levels this discussion has become purely academic as even the idea of him going to the Rams was just a plot propagated by his many "enemies". You know other coaches, refs, the Niners fan base, etc... I will say that as you look at his record, look at what he left behind. The now talentless team has gone 5-11 and 1-12 in the two years following his departure. Cheers to you all, it's fun to have a friendly argument once in a while around here. I don't mind Sean sticking around as I'm also sure he has at least one more year in him. I'd sure like to see many of his BFFs leave. I like to think we could really improve our W-L numbers with the players we have if they could just receive some better coaching from the second and third layer coaches. Have great day all, and a Merry whatever it is you're celebrating this season! spkb25 and halloween 65 like this.
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12-14-2016, 11:26 AM	#29
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Harbaugh to Rams Originally Posted by Seer1 What? What exactly has hardball really won? He does okay at Stanford for a bit then goes to the Whiners (perfect fit) and turns that organization into a pure mess. His players hated him, the owner hated him, the refs hated him (just ask him). He's a prozac poster boy. Besides, what makes you think his current owner (Urban Meyer) would let him go anyhow? Chucky could be fun. He's had a few years to observe the game from on high. Mebbe he has a few new ideas. actually didn't he get them to the SB and produced winning seasons? You can hate him all you like but he was winning... he left and they fall to ****.

12-14-2016, 11:28 AM	#30
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Harbaugh to Rams actually I am ok staying the course. I like what the Saints did this past off season. Draft they didn't focus on one area they drafted help in all areas of the team. Just need time for them to develop and stay the course. A knee jerk reaction isn't what is needed. Utah_Saint likes this.

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