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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I thought all last year, and said it on here a few times, that nothing Anthony was doing was all that impressive. People kept showing me stats of other rookies and how Stephone had more tackles than them. I thought ...

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Old 12-13-2016, 07:28 AM   #1
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I thought all last year, and said it on here a few times, that nothing Anthony was doing was all that impressive. People kept showing me stats of other rookies and how Stephone had more tackles than them. I thought it was pretty obvious that playing middle linebacker on a bad defense would lead to a lot of opportunities for tackles. I used Curtis Lofton as exhibit A.

The amount of tackles didn't impress me. I saw him constantly out of position in coverage, I saw him getting pushed around and missing tackles. He did make some nice plays. But it wasn't anything to really change my overall perception of his season. I certainly hadn't given up on him, though, after just one season. It was simply my opinion that he hadn't shown anything worth getting excited about, yet. Not many people agreed with me, and continued to show me his stats vs. other rookies.

I look up today, and there are several of those same players, having very good years, and the Saints were clearly not impressed by Anthony's performance last year, enough to let him start one game until week 14. I have criticized plenty of things about the Saints coaching staff, but the complete absence of playing time for Anthony surely can't all be on blind coaching.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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I thought all last year, and said it on here a few times, that nothing Anthony was doing was all that impressive. People kept showing me stats of other rookies and how Stephone had more tackles than them. I thought it was pretty obvious that playing middle linebacker on a bad defense would lead to a lot of opportunities for tackles. I used Curtis Lofton as exhibit A.

The amount of tackles didn't impress me. I saw him constantly out of position in coverage, I saw him getting pushed around and missing tackles. He did make some nice plays. But it wasn't anything to really change my overall perception of his season. I certainly hadn't given up on him, though, after just one season. It was simply my opinion that he hadn't shown anything worth getting excited about, yet. Not many people agreed with me, and continued to show me his stats vs. other rookies.

I look up today, and there are several of those same players, having very good years, and the Saints were clearly not impressed by Anthony's performance last year, enough to let him start one game until week 14. I have criticized plenty of things about the Saints coaching staff, but the complete absence of playing time for Anthony surely can't all be on blind coaching.
It's funny you bring up Lofton. I think Anthony is another Lofton 2.0 except bigger, I never liked the pick but his hussle grew on me. Anyone can see he will never be a Vilma, but he's tough against the run and a step to slow just like Lofton. I don't think he was drafted to be a Vilma type or a Kiegly(carolinas mlb) for a 4-3 that has great range to cover but he's more of an enforcer in the middle in a 3-4 or a 4-3. A lb. like Anthony doesn't fit Allens type of D for the starting middle spot but not to use this kid on certain packages in the MLB spot,I would call that blind coaching. If he gets traded I hope NE or Pittsburg picks him up.
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Old 12-13-2016, 02:31 PM   #3
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It's funny you bring up Lofton. I think Anthony is another Lofton 2.0 except bigger, I never liked the pick but his hussle grew on me. Anyone can see he will never be a Vilma, but he's tough against the run and a step to slow just like Lofton. I don't think he was drafted to be a Vilma type or a Kiegly(carolinas mlb) for a 4-3 that has great range to cover but he's more of an enforcer in the middle in a 3-4 or a 4-3. A lb. like Anthony doesn't fit Allens type of D for the starting middle spot but not to use this kid on certain packages in the MLB spot,I would call that blind coaching. If he gets traded I hope NE or Pittsburg picks him up.
I don't know man. I'm not sure that Anthony's lack of playing time has anything to do with the system. It might be true that he could be better suited in a different system but, generally speaking, coaches will try to get their best players on the field and let them play through any schematic learning curve.

I think not playing virtually at all this season speaks volumes about Anthony's ability to grasp an NFL defense, in general. I could be wrong, but from what I see of him on the field and coinciding with his lack of playing time, I don't know what else it could realistically be. That's just my opinion. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I just see it a lot differently at this point.

You mentioned that he doesn't have the range to cover, and that has been a huge disappointment for me, because people raved about his speed and quickness coming out of college. I don't think he's slow, but whatever speed he has is not helping him track the ball.
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If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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