Brees limited

neugey · 12-15-2016, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

The way he's thrown as of late, lots of int.'s, low balls, throwing behind recievers doesn't look like his arm is alive or strong. I think if he stays here next season this type of play will continue earlier next season than it has this season. Like Supertec says he needs to be surrounded with the style of game Denver did for Manning but I highly doubt Payton does this, then of course our D is nowhere near what Denver had either. I'm really thinking we better have plan B with a live arm ready to go.

Might be taking it too far. I haven't seen any noodle-arm passes that were the norm for Peyton in the last season and a half. Technically, Brees arm strength is likely still better than Brady's yet it's smooth sailing for the Pats offense.

halloween 65 · 12-15-2016, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Might be taking it too far. I haven't seen any noodle-arm passes that were the norm for Peyton in the last season and a half. Technically, Brees arm strength is likely still better than Brady's yet it's smooth sailing for the Pats offense.

This is true but there are more signs of an arm than being a noodle arm. I disagree respectfully about Brees arm likely better than Bradys arm but definatly agree about the Pats O. I thought Brees looked weak at times last season also. I know he threw for a ton just like this season but his zip isn't like it was.

Rugby Saint II · 12-16-2016, 02:52 PM

I wonder who is getting the reps? Someone who could see playing time soon? I wonder? Drew is known to play through an injury.

He is 37 and is in great shape. He is not on the decline! He is still pin point accurate down the field and any where else for that matter! He doesn't feel comfortable with our aging O-line regressing later in the year. He throws interceptions when it's all on him to win the game. Oh, and he is human. We forget that little fact. If Brady can play this well then so can Drew if we give him an O-line that can open running lanes and pass protect.

He has always had streaks where he's thrown interceptions and usually we can't blame his interceptions for our losses. The team has drafted poorly and done a bad job with high priced free agents which results in a bad team. That is not Drew's fault. We'll be lucky if he is back here next year. I just hope to God he stays another three years and we give him an offensive line like the Cowboys.....invest the early draft picks and watch the offense explode again.

Did I mention we have a good young defense ranked 24th in the league that will be getting several impact players back from IR? For those of you jumping ship we are no where close to an iceberg.

jonnyrotten · 12-16-2016, 03:20 PM

Coby Fleener.... hahahahahahahahahahaha.

Danno · 12-16-2016, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

This is true but there are more signs of an arm than being a noodle arm. I disagree respectfully about Brees arm likely better than Bradys arm but definatly agree about the Pats O. I thought Brees looked weak at times last season also. I know he threw for a ton just like this season but his zip isn't like it was.

There have been numerous reports that arm strength doesn't deteriorate noticeably nearly as much as their ability to heal after the weekly grind of getting battered.

I'll bet Marino and Elway can still throw an impressive fastball. it'll just take them a few weeks to recover.

The Dude · 12-17-2016, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Sitting an injured Brees isn't tanking.

Sitting a healthy Brees is tanking, and I'd hope Goodell would take away draft picks for any team that obviously tanks.

I would love it if Goodall would not be allowed to take away draft picks or have any kind of disciplinarian role at all. I would rather see any rule violations handled by a panel of some kind.

hagan714 · 12-17-2016, 12:50 PM

nah we drafted a LT so let Peat play. I am more concerned about LG now.

Danno · 12-17-2016, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

nah we drafted a LT so let Peat play. I am more concerned about LG now.

Peat has proven valuable at LG and/or LT.

I'd definitely want to upgrade both guard spots and acquire a younger RT.

We'd better be looking at building a team that can survive after Brees retires, so we'd better be damn good in the trenches with a solid defense, a solid run game and some dangerous WR/TE/RB's.

Kinda like the Cowboys and Giants are doing.

Its why I wouldn't hate drafting Fournette, although I hope and prefer its a pass rusher in round 1.

jeanpierre · 12-18-2016, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

There have been numerous reports that arm strength doesn't deteriorate noticeably nearly as much as their ability to heal after the weekly grind of getting battered.

I'll bet Marino and Elway can still throw an impressive fastball. it'll just take them a few weeks to recover.

This and stamina are closer to the problems that Brees is facing and will continue to increase as a problem for him...

It's time to aggressively find his replacement for the end of next season...

12-15-2016, 04:24 PM	#21
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Brees limited Originally Posted by halloween 65 The way he's thrown as of late, lots of int.'s, low balls, throwing behind recievers doesn't look like his arm is alive or strong. I think if he stays here next season this type of play will continue earlier next season than it has this season. Like Supertec says he needs to be surrounded with the style of game Denver did for Manning but I highly doubt Payton does this, then of course our D is nowhere near what Denver had either. I'm really thinking we better have plan B with a live arm ready to go. Might be taking it too far. I haven't seen any noodle-arm passes that were the norm for Peyton in the last season and a half. Technically, Brees arm strength is likely still better than Brady's yet it's smooth sailing for the Pats offense. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-15-2016, 04:43 PM	#22
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Brees limited Originally Posted by neugey Might be taking it too far. I haven't seen any noodle-arm passes that were the norm for Peyton in the last season and a half. Technically, Brees arm strength is likely still better than Brady's yet it's smooth sailing for the Pats offense. This is true but there are more signs of an arm than being a noodle arm. I disagree respectfully about Brees arm likely better than Bradys arm but definatly agree about the Pats O. I thought Brees looked weak at times last season also. I know he threw for a ton just like this season but his zip isn't like it was.

12-16-2016, 02:52 PM	#23
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: Brees limited I wonder who is getting the reps? Someone who could see playing time soon? I wonder? Drew is known to play through an injury. He is 37 and is in great shape. He is not on the decline! He is still pin point accurate down the field and any where else for that matter! He doesn't feel comfortable with our aging O-line regressing later in the year. He throws interceptions when it's all on him to win the game. Oh, and he is human. We forget that little fact. If Brady can play this well then so can Drew if we give him an O-line that can open running lanes and pass protect. He has always had streaks where he's thrown interceptions and usually we can't blame his interceptions for our losses. The team has drafted poorly and done a bad job with high priced free agents which results in a bad team. That is not Drew's fault. We'll be lucky if he is back here next year. I just hope to God he stays another three years and we give him an offensive line like the Cowboys.....invest the early draft picks and watch the offense explode again. Did I mention we have a good young defense ranked 24th in the league that will be getting several impact players back from IR? For those of you jumping ship we are no where close to an iceberg. jnormand, Danno and BusDriver like this.
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12-16-2016, 03:20 PM	#24
jonnyrotten 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 511	Re: Brees limited Coby Fleener.... hahahahahahahahahahaha.

12-16-2016, 06:19 PM	#25
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Brees limited Originally Posted by halloween 65 This is true but there are more signs of an arm than being a noodle arm. I disagree respectfully about Brees arm likely better than Bradys arm but definatly agree about the Pats O. I thought Brees looked weak at times last season also. I know he threw for a ton just like this season but his zip isn't like it was. There have been numerous reports that arm strength doesn't deteriorate noticeably nearly as much as their ability to heal after the weekly grind of getting battered. I'll bet Marino and Elway can still throw an impressive fastball. it'll just take them a few weeks to recover.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Brees limited Originally Posted by Danno Sitting an injured Brees isn't tanking. Sitting a healthy Brees is tanking, and I'd hope Goodell would take away draft picks for any team that obviously tanks. I would love it if Goodall would not be allowed to take away draft picks or have any kind of disciplinarian role at all. I would rather see any rule violations handled by a panel of some kind.
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12-17-2016, 12:50 PM	#27
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Brees limited nah we drafted a LT so let Peat play. I am more concerned about LG now. jnormand and Danno like this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Brees limited Originally Posted by hagan714 nah we drafted a LT so let Peat play. I am more concerned about LG now. Peat has proven valuable at LG and/or LT. I'd definitely want to upgrade both guard spots and acquire a younger RT. We'd better be looking at building a team that can survive after Brees retires, so we'd better be damn good in the trenches with a solid defense, a solid run game and some dangerous WR/TE/RB's. Kinda like the Cowboys and Giants are doing. Its why I wouldn't hate drafting Fournette, although I hope and prefer its a pass rusher in round 1.

12-18-2016, 11:44 AM	#29
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Brees limited Originally Posted by Danno There have been numerous reports that arm strength doesn't deteriorate noticeably nearly as much as their ability to heal after the weekly grind of getting battered. I'll bet Marino and Elway can still throw an impressive fastball. it'll just take them a few weeks to recover. This and stamina are closer to the problems that Brees is facing and will continue to increase as a problem for him... It's time to aggressively find his replacement for the end of next season...

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