This is true but there are more signs of an arm than being a noodle arm. I disagree respectfully about Brees arm likely better than Bradys arm but definatly agree about the Pats O. I thought Brees looked weak at times last season also. I know he threw for a ton just like this season but his zip isn't like it was.

There have been numerous reports that arm strength doesn't deteriorate noticeably nearly as much as their ability to heal after the weekly grind of getting battered.

I'll bet Marino and Elway can still throw an impressive fastball. it'll just take them a few weeks to recover.