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LKelley67 03-16-2005 07:43 AM

Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread
 
Heard on espn today that the jets cannot come to terms with abraham and letting him seek a trade. this is not good news having a higher rated de available at must-go sale price, although he is less must-go for them than howard here. just a 2nd rounder alone now will make me happy.
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after reading this maybe howard will look MORE attractive...
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Abraham is believed to be seeking a deal that would pay him more than the Eagles' Jevon Kearse, who signed an eight-year, $66 million contract last year that included $16 million in guarantees.
[Edited on 16/3/2005 by LKelley67]

saintswhodi 03-16-2005 08:56 AM

Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread
 
I hate that this deal for Howard is coming down to the actual deadline. Now we may get caught in a firesale for him and not get enough in return. Oh well, if he draws at least a second, you have to consider that a success for a player who would have walked for nothing. Anybody realize if we keep him for one year and tag him for next season again and try to trade him his cap figure will be 9 mil or more? Why would anyone want that as an option if 7.8 mil is a lot? Come on Dallas, make this happen today.

Euphoria 03-16-2005 08:59 AM

Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread
 
yeah I know... same problem when they said the deadline was Monday at 3...

saintswhodi 03-16-2005 09:03 AM

Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread
 
But the deadline WASN\'T Monday at 3. :o

Euphoria 03-16-2005 09:05 AM

Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread
 
I know that is why I posted that.

papz 03-16-2005 09:08 AM

Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread
 
Well we pretty much was expecting a 2nd rounder anyways... now about an extra pick but we will make due w/o it.

bayouboy1 03-16-2005 09:50 AM

Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread
 

:o
The deadline for Monday at 3 was for T BUCK....NOT Howard


KEEP THE FAITH--GEAUX SAINTS!

JKool 03-16-2005 09:55 AM

Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread
 
I\'ve heard rumors that our FO is actually working on a long term deal with Howard again. Now, I suspect that is not true, but it is a rumor that should prevent a \"fire sale.\"

baronm 03-16-2005 09:56 AM

Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread
 
so if we sign him to a longterm deal-how does that help us?

saintswhodi 03-16-2005 09:57 AM

Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread
 
They are working on the long term deal to be able to trade him. That protects Dallas. If they trade for him without the deal, he becomes their 7.8 million dollar problem, and not ours. If it\'s not done by 3pm today, any team that trades for him before July 15 runs the risk of being stuck with his current 7.8 million dollar one year deal, and the HOPE they can get a long term deal done.

Puddinhead 03-16-2005 11:31 AM

Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread
 
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They are working on the long term deal to be able to trade him. That protects Dallas. If they trade for him without the deal, he becomes their 7.8 million dollar problem, and not ours. If it\'s not done by 3pm today, any team that trades for him before July 15 runs the risk of being stuck with his current 7.8 million dollar one year deal, and the HOPE they can get a long term deal done.
As many have probably said, as far as a team looking to acquire Howard in a trade would be concerned, next Wednesday is the same as this one. The 3pm \"deadline\" is meaningless. While the Saints would be unable to negotiate with Howard until July15 for a long-term contract for him to stay here, no such restriction will be in place for a team seeking to acquire him. Dallas, for example, would still be able to hammer out a new deal with Howard before committing to a trade. So, tradewise, the \"deadline\" is anything but.

o1higuy 03-16-2005 12:19 PM

Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread
 
Saw this on another message board so it is just rumor.

Don\'t shoot the messenger!!
I have no way of checking the facts, but
at both the NO and D newspaper leak forums, they are both mentioning
that DAT is back on the table and went as far as to say that DAT is on his way to NO for a physical.
The rumor is now that it will be DAT and a 2nd this year.
Dallas will use one of there 1st rounders to trade down to get a 2nd and 3rd round pick and focus on getting a Bigger sized MLB.
IF this is true, and I hope it is.....
I think that it would be fair to both sides. Dallas would still have there 2 1st rounders to get what they want and get a proven pass rushing, QB intimidating DE that they have not had since the 90s. NO will get a proven run stopper(albeit small), who has the vision of a true MLB and a great on the field play caller and leader and have 2 2nd rounders to scoop up some of those BPA guys who slip into the 2nd round.
Then with our 1st rounder we can get a shut down corner.

baronm 03-16-2005 12:36 PM

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Stefon LeFors from Louisville. Would be good to be in a dome. He runs in the 4.5 range, great insticts, very accurate. If he was an inch taller and a little more accurate, he would be a top rated QB. He is kind of overlooked.
this is what kiper had to say and we were scouting him...a late second or ealry third wouln\'t be a bad pickup

turbo_dog 03-16-2005 12:43 PM

Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread
 
:rockon: :band2.sml:

[Edited on 16/3/2005 by turbo_dog]

baronm 03-16-2005 12:46 PM

Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread
 
whatever---maybe that\'s too high for a qb not named frye, smith or rogers..but you don\'t gotta be rude.

Euphoria 03-16-2005 01:13 PM

Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread
 
UGH... this is thread is starting to be a repeat of mondays!

3pm Deadline was for Howard to sign the damn franchise tender which he signed on Monday! He is a 7.8 million dollar hit in this years pot. If he didn\'t sign the deadline would make him a RFA any team signing him by the rules would forfeit 2 first round draft picks to the Saints for signing a marked player unles the Saints and said team worked out a deal. THe Saints can trade him at anytime now... they just can\'t negociate a long term deal until July 15th. Now this is important... if the Saints work a trade including Howard that team has 24 hours to negociate a long term deal with HOWARD or they can pass on the trade or take him on despite a long-term contract.

[Edited on 16/3/2005 by Euphoria]

turbo_dog 03-16-2005 05:52 PM

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whatever---maybe that\'s too high for a qb not named frye, smith or rogers..but you don\'t gotta be rude.
Baron, I was agreeing with you about Lefors. You can check back and you will see that I\'ve posted my fondness for his ability several times.

I just used that sign because you\'re post seemed so completely out of place that it struck me as strange, and I\'ve wanted to use it for a long time. Looking again, I guess it does seem rude, so I\'ll edit it.

spkb25 03-16-2005 06:02 PM

Darren Howard WEDNESDAY Countdown Thread
 
if we get a second for howard im happy. if we get that and dat im excited. if we keep him and we can still pay other players im ok. but would prefer to trade the guy only because he can get rid of some cap room and get us some picks


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