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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by dizzle88 Patterson would certainly solve our kick returner problem. That problem runs much deeper than just whoever's catching the ball. Can Banta solve our kick returner problem?...

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Old 02-23-2017, 07:29 AM   #1
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Patterson would certainly solve our kick returner problem.
That problem runs much deeper than just whoever's catching the ball. Can Banta solve our kick returner problem?
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Old 02-23-2017, 07:38 AM   #2
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Patterson? hmmm former first-round pick that is pretty much a bust. For a "reasonable price" of 4 to 6 million? pass

Instead give me one of these guys instead, all should go in the same price range

Rick Wagner RT Ravens
A.J. Klein MLB Carolina
Micah Hyde FS/SS Green Bay
Lawrence Guy, DE/DT, Ravens
Justin Hunter WR Buffalo Bills
Rex Burkhead RB Bengals
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Old 02-23-2017, 08:44 AM   #3
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Micah Hyde FS/SS Green Bay
Versatile & has play making ability. Micah did a lot of good things last year on a decimated GB defense. We must acquire these type players via FA and/or draft in order to compete in 2017.
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Old 02-23-2017, 08:58 AM   #4
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Versatile & has play making ability. Micah did a lot of good things last year on a decimated GB defense. We must acquire these type players via FA and/or draft in order to compete in 2017.
Not disagreeing with y'all assessment of the player, but where does he play?

How much do you commit in FA money to a fourth/fifth Safety?

Are you sure Byrd, Vaccaro is out the door? Just committed two draft picks for Bell as well?

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 35 - Robenson Therezie

SS (3) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 00 - Forrest Hightower

And don't forget you've got two other guys that have been looked at the safety position (27 - Damian Swann & 43 - Jimmy Pruitt)...
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Are you sure Byrd, Vaccaro is out the door? Just committed two draft picks for Bell as well?

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 35 - Robenson Therezie
This is what the Saints FO save each year by making Byrd a June 1 cut:

2017:
Cap Hit: 11.7M
Dead Money: 3.4M
Cap Savings: 8.3M

Anyone with cap expertise, feel free to chime in with further information or clarification.
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This is what the Saints FO save each year by making Byrd a June 1 cut:

2017:
Cap Hit: 11.7M
Dead Money: 3.4M
Cap Savings: 8.3M

Anyone with cap expertise, feel free to chime in with further information or clarification.
I understand, but how much will his market be?

How much of a learning curve will he require?

Where does he fit in among the safeties we have, even w/o Byrd?

For me, you get that elite guard to protect Brees and get that four yards and a cloud of dust component back for the offense and get that solid pass rusher opposite Cam; extend Willie the IV, Sterling Moore, then worry about saving at Safety...

I'm not a Byrd fan, but I'd rather use the cap room in those other areas first...
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Old 02-24-2017, 11:43 PM   #7
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Patterson? hmmm former first-round pick that is pretty much a bust. For a "reasonable price" of 4 to 6 million? pass

Instead give me one of these guys instead, all should go in the same price range

Rick Wagner RT Ravens
A.J. Klein MLB Carolina
Micah Hyde FS/SS Green Bay
Lawrence Guy, DE/DT, Ravens
Justin Hunter WR Buffalo Bills
Rex Burkhead RB Bengals
Patterson actually looked really good when they used him as a WR. He reminds me of Meachem back in the dsy.
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Old 02-25-2017, 07:29 AM   #8
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Patterson actually looked really good when they used him as a WR. He reminds me of Meachem back in the dsy.
Sorry, rez, Patterson knows only two routes, the out, the seam-fly; he can't make a read to run his route...

Saints offense is predicated on smart receivers, making reads and precise route running and timing...
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Sorry, rez, Patterson knows only two routes, the out, the seam-fly; he can't make a read to run his route...

Saints offense is predicated on smart receivers, making reads and precise route running and timing...
That's pretty much all we did with Meachem for the most part. Devery was limited for a while too. I agree with you though.
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Sorry, rez, Patterson knows only two routes, the out, the seam-fly; he can't make a read to run his route...

Saints offense is predicated on smart receivers, making reads and precise route running and timing...
I read somewhere recently that he wanted to play more running back...I wonder how he'd handle that satellite RB role in our offense instead of WR.
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