2017 Free Agency thread anyone?

[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by saintfan

Hope for good things for him. Best of luck CJ.

You know, I'm curious to see C.J. paired with Andy Reid...

[Seer1]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

You know, I'm curious to see C.J. paired with Andy Reid...

Andy Reid is pretty much snake bit -the Marty Schottenheimer of the current era. Will get his guys to the playoffs a lot, but he'll then make some dumbass move and miss the big day once again...

[ScottF]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

For those that were hoping for CJ to come back and make good...

https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/835143843943231488

No problm. Let's sign Charles

[jeanpierre]

The top two position needs in my mind for free agency are Right Guard and Defensive End...

Priority is to add Kevin Zeitler to a very good offensive line of Armstead-Peat-Unger-(Zeitler)-Strief...

With Zeitler, that gives you the best offensive line in football protecting the best passer in football and really opening that running game...

Add the young triplets at WR; and then the backfield of Ingram, Lasco, & (Insert RB here) - there is no defense stopping that offense - None.

To jump start the defense, it starts up front & Chandler Jones would be great add, but will be tagged by 'Zona & that leaves Jason Pierre-Paul or Calais Campbell...

Campbell will be 31 this season; but, he could be a good one/two year rental while developing a DE from the 2nd/3rd round; plus, he's an excellent teammate...

JPP has two, three more years, but he's gonna want a four year deal with guaranteed money; that signing comes with some risks that may make the FO gun-shy...

No matter what, get Paul Kruger back at a fair number now; he'll be a year removed from injury and with a year in D.A.'s system and would be a great DE rotation with continuity...

[rezburna]

Either Melvin Ingram, Chandler Jones, or Nick Perry has to receive a contract from the Saints this year. I'd also make the push for Kevin Zeitler like jeanpierre said. We need to draft Reuben Foster and Tre'davious White. We need A.J. Klein and Logan Ryan. Those moves would make us Super Bowl contenders. I think I'd give Eddie Lacy a contract as well.

[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by rezburna

Either Melvin Ingram, Chandler Jones, or Nick Perry has to receive a contract from the Saints this year. I'd also make the push for Kevin Zeitler like jeanpierre said. We need to draft Reuben Foster and Tre'davious White. We need A.J. Klein and Logan Ryan. Those moves would make us Super Bowl contenders. I think I'd give Eddie Lacy a contract as well.

Bruce Arians has already said that Jones will be franchise tagged before he gets out the door; I know, I like this guy opposite Cam too!

There's been some word that Mel Ingram could be tagged; some don't feel he's got the size to set the edge in D.A.'s front, I'm starting to come around to that way of thinking as well...

Does Nick Perry still have enough left in the tank? Would Calais Campbell be better (Yes, please)? Would JPP be worth the risk, reward?

A.J. Klein is intriguing, but it's looking like Foster could be there for us at No. 11...

[K Major]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

A.J. Klein is intriguing, but it's looking like Foster could be there for us at No. 11...

AJ ? Meh ...

Recovery and sideline to sideline speed would be a concern. We look like turtles compared to a lot of other NFL defenses. Gotta get faster.

[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by K Major

AJ ? Meh ...

Recovery and sideline to sideline speed would be a concern. We look like turtles compared to a lot of other NFL defenses. Gotta get faster.

I don't know, Major, Robertson and Ellerbe looked pretty damn fast last season...

Robertson ran with the Panther's Ginn on a post pattern - and I still think Ginn didn't complete the catch inbounds!

[hagan714]

Originally Posted by K Major

AJ ? Meh ...

Recovery and sideline to sideline speed would be a concern. We look like turtles compared to a lot of other NFL defenses. Gotta get faster.

This is the same logic that had me scratching my head at the draft.

Reuben Foster - My gut says he is more a part of a great unit than the key to that units greatness. top 20 talent? sure. At 11 to man the middle of the defense? I can not go there.

Foster kind of reminds me of Anthony. Physically it all appears to be there to be a pro bowl player. But the instincts needed to anchor a defense is just average and does not appear to be at that perennial pro bowl level to me. At 11 that is what I am looking for if I am not going to pick a TE with perinatal pro bowler written all over him. Actually I am to the point were we would be lucky to have OJ Howard will have fall into our laps at 11.

In the rebuilding years for the saints defense I would rather a proven vet from one of the best defenses in the league anchoring the middle. Back up two of the better LB in the NFL is not a knock on his ability but case a just plain bad luck? I go with a mid level contract on a vet deserving a shot at starting and has proven at the very least he is more than capable of playing all 3 LB positions as a back up at a high level.

His draft review. cut and pate time

This I totally agree with then and even more today. key ingredient for a MLB in a 43

Klein is a very intelligent and instinctual football player.

Fiery. Active and instinctual linebacker who plays all three positions in the stack.

AJ is getting that slow white boy can't jump wrap still but

40 4.66
20 2.69
10 1.60

pro day due to knee at combine
Shuttle 4.35
cone 7.06
vert 33

neg draft write up

-Lacks elite straight-line and recovery speed.
-Struggles to in man coverage.
-cannot consistently run down plays from the back side.
-Inconsistent breaking down to make stops in space.
-Lacks great flexibility to turn the corner as a pass rusher or adjust to -elusive ball carriers, can slip off tackles when coming in too high.

Well he proved all of them wrong by the time his first FA period came along He may not have elite but he is not average by any means. ok except the flexibility to turn the corner bit. Great? nope. More than good enough to play at the NFL? yes. Here I throw out the white boy can not dance card.

NFL Comparison Scott Shanle

Never agreed with it but Scott was the guy the saint went out of their way to replace year after year and he beat all FA and draft choices the saints threw at him. Gotta respect that fact alone. He reminds of Scott in smarts but Klien is more athletically gifted and has the instincts that kept Scott from getting the fan love he deserved.

A.J. Klein and Micah Hyde are the two safest FA signing the saints can make to improve this defense. Most bang for the buck. Elite back ups in the NFL trapped behind top notch starters.

The flexibility to improve the saints a multiple positions. As starters and/or backups.

MLB / WLB / SLB / SS / FS / CB / PR.

They will not sit on the bench.

Robertson needs to move to his natural WLB position. So MLB is huge for the saints. Thats an upgrade to two positions with one move.

SLB is still my #1 huge question mark for the LB corp. Is Anthony our SLB? The saints need to answer this ASAP. I still think he is possible trade bait to get the right player or if the offer is right. I do not buy into the comments coming out of the FO 100%. SLB is were I would look to the draft early if the Anthony is not the answer in our 43. round 2 SLB T.J. Watt?

[rezburna]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Bruce Arians has already said that Jones will be franchise tagged before he gets out the door; I know, I like this guy opposite Cam too!

There's been some word that Mel Ingram could be tagged; some don't feel he's got the size to set the edge in D.A.'s front, I'm starting to come around to that way of thinking as well...

Does Nick Perry still have enough left in the tank? Would Calais Campbell be better (Yes, please)? Would JPP be worth the risk, reward?

A.J. Klein is intriguing, but it's looking like Foster could be there for us at No. 11...

I want Foster and Klein. Klein can move outside.