2017 Free Agency thread anyone?

[triman]

I have been running a lot of mock draft sims. It seems to me that we have to
get a guard and cb help in free agency. Pass rushers are too expensive in FA.
Jahri Evans was a blessing this season . I think it would be unwise to count heavly on his returning next season. If there is a starting CB available at a reasonable price that would be good move also IMHO.

[K Major]

Originally Posted by rezburna

Morris Claiborne, CB, Dallas Cowboys

Rez,

I like everyone on your list with the exception of Mo C. The Cows faithful up this way have officially labeled him as a bust. He is very injury prone and would probably be no better than what we already have at corner.


Anyhow, here is my short list ...

Nick Fairley - hopefully the Saints re sign him ...
Stephone Gilmore - CB
Kevin Zietler - G (go BIG)
AJ Bouye - CB
Melvin Ingram - LB

Draft the best pass rusher available. I mean a guy who strikes fear to opposing offenses coming off the edge.

Other notable players I like coming out of college:

Derek Barnett : DE (Tennessee)
Tim Williams : LB (Baton Rouge kid -Alabama stud) can play 4-3
Tre'Davious White : CB - LSU (no homer here, the kid is dynamic)
Zach Cunningham : LB - Vanderbilt. IMO he is the best coverage LB coming out of college.

[rezburna]

Originally Posted by K Major

Rez,

I like everyone on your list with the exception of Mo C. The Cows faithful up this way have officially labeled him as a bust. He is very injury prone and would probably be no better than what we already have at corner.


Anyhow, here is my short list ...

Nick Fairley - hopefully the Saints re sign him ...
Stephone Gilmore - CB
Kevin Zietler - G (go BIG)
AJ Bouye - CB
Melvin Ingram - LB

Draft the best pass rusher available. I mean a guy who strikes fear to opposing offenses coming off the edge.

Other notable players I like coming out of college:

Derek Barnett : DE (Tennessee)
Tim Williams : LB (Baton Rouge kid -Alabama stud) can play 4-3
Tre'Davious White : CB - LSU (no homer here, the kid is dynamic)
Zach Cunningham : LB - Vanderbilt. IMO he is the best coverage LB coming out of college.

Love Barnett and White.

[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by rezburna

Ronald Leary, Guard, Dallas Cowboys
Morris Claiborne, CB, Dallas Cowboys
Trumaine Johnson, CB, L.A. Rams
Donta Hightower, OLB, New England Patriots
Charles Johnson, DE, Carolina Panthers
T.J. Lang, Guard, GB Packers
Martellus Bennett, TE, New England Patriots
Stephone Gilmore, CB, Buffalo Bills
There's a lot of quality out there next year.

For me, we've got a great pair of CB with Del Breaux and P.J. Williams, bring back Sterling Moore as the nickel and with Crawley and Harris coming back - we're there; besides you're gonna need cap space to extend these guys contracts soon...

Simply, we've got better CBs on our roster already...

To me the FA money on defense would be better spent on the front seven, decreasing the exposure time of the secondary...

Leary will live in the hot tub once he gets paid based on his time already and this is the most he's been available in this his contract year; he's benefitted playing with All-Pros on either side of him; RL will already be 28 and you'll have to contract him through till his 32, bad deal and don't trust him...

T.J. Lang will be thirty years old next season.

Definitely need a younger, impact option at Right Guard and Kevin Zeitler is the answer; No. 4 rated OG who could have a higher ceiling on the Saints offense vs the Bengals; think of the impact he'd have between Unger and Strief; have seen a playes where Cincy RBs have rode him to the end zone from 5-8 yds out the past few seasons; he's a gamer and be worth every penny...

Martellus Bennett is a big mouth who's inconsistent and would cause disharmony in the locker room. Look at the sh*t Cooks caused for asking for the ball - think of what Bennett would be like - NO THANKS. But you're right, Fleener is gonna cut it...

Charles Johnson's game is no where near what it was; he was cut and re-signed to a one year deal and he'll be 31 next season - Draft a younger, faster, stronger DE...

[spkb25]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

For me, we've got a great pair of CB with Del Breaux and P.J. Williams, bring back Sterling Moore as the nickel and with Crawley and Harris coming back - we're there; besides you're gonna need cap space to extend these guys contracts soon...

Simply, we've got better CBs on our roster already...

To me the FA money on defense would be better spent on the front seven, decreasing the exposure time of the secondary...

Leary will live in the hot tub once he gets paid based on his time already and this is the most he's been available in this his contract year; he's benefitted playing with All-Pros on either side of him; RL will already be 28 and you'll have to contract him through till his 32, bad deal and don't trust him...

T.J. Lang will be thirty years old next season.

Definitely need a younger, impact option at Right Guard and Kevin Zeitler is the answer; No. 4 rated OG who could have a higher ceiling on the Saints offense vs the Bengals; think of the impact he'd have between Unger and Strief; have seen a playes where Cincy RBs have rode him to the end zone from 5-8 yds out the past few seasons; he's a gamer and be worth every penny...

Martellus Bennett is a big mouth who's inconsistent and would cause disharmony in the locker room. Look at the sh*t Cooks caused for asking for the ball - think of what Bennett would be like - NO THANKS. But you're right, Fleener is gonna cut it...

Charles Johnson's game is no where near what it was; he was cut and re-signed to a one year deal and he'll be 31 next season - Draft a younger, faster, stronger DE...

I am not arguing to spend big on a CB in Free Agency, but PJ Williams has been in the field for like 1.5 games in 2 years. Yes he had potential, but no idea how long he can remain on the field.

I have no idea what we have in Breaux any longer, he didn't seem very good after coming back from injury. Hope that was timing from being off and then a new injury, hope he can get back to what we had before that, but right now we have very suspect CB's, again. Glad Kenny served his four game suspension.

[jeanpierre]

Originally Posted by spkb25

I am not arguing to spend big on a CB in Free Agency, but PJ Williams has been in the field for like 1.5 games in 2 years. Yes he had potential, but no idea how long he can remain on the field.

I have no idea what we have in Breaux any longer, he didn't seem very good after coming back from injury. Hope that was timing from being off and then a new injury, hope he can get back to what we had before that, but right now we have very suspect CB's, again. Glad Kenny served his four game suspension.

Spike, Brother wipe your eyes and realized the freakish sh*t that happened!

Beaux came back despite multiple injuries and yet still gamed it up...

I mean, damn, PJ Williams essentially got kicked in the head by a horse!

And don't forget Sterling Moore fell into our laps...

Plus you've got two really good rookies in Crawley and Harris who just need playing time for seasoning...

And if you're gonna spend, don't do it like they do in MLB and say, okay we'll take the fifth best FA and pro rate that amount of money based on the market...

None of the FA CBs there are as good as we already have...

[rezburna]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Spike, Brother wipe your eyes and realized the freakish sh*t that happened!

Beaux came back despite multiple injuries and yet still gamed it up...

I mean, damn, PJ Williams essentially got kicked in the head by a horse!

And don't forget Sterling Moore fell into our laps...

Plus you've got two really good rookies in Crawley and Harris who just need playing time for seasoning...

And if you're gonna spend, don't do it like they do in MLB and say, okay we'll take the fifth best FA and pro rate that amount of money based on the market...

None of the FA CBs there are as good as we already have...

I'd argue Johnson is better than Breaux and Gilmore is better than everybody else. That injury bug is a problem.

[spkb25]

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Spike, Brother wipe your eyes and realized the freakish sh*t that happened!

Beaux came back despite multiple injuries and yet still gamed it up...

I mean, damn, PJ Williams essentially got kicked in the head by a horse!

And don't forget Sterling Moore fell into our laps...

Plus you've got two really good rookies in Crawley and Harris who just need playing time for seasoning...

And if you're gonna spend, don't do it like they do in MLB and say, okay we'll take the fifth best FA and pro rate that amount of money based on the market...

None of the FA CBs there are as good as we already have...

PJ Williams missed his entire rookie season due to injury and played 1.5 games this year before the same. Are you kidding me? I hope it doesn't happen again, but **** man that's far too frequently.

Breaux had the broken leg, what other injuries happened? I mean he went to IR, but I didn't know of anything besides those 2

[hagan714]

Originally Posted by spkb25

I am not arguing to spend big on a CB in Free Agency, but PJ Williams has been in the field for like 1.5 games in 2 years. Yes he had potential, but no idea how long he can remain on the field.

I have no idea what we have in Breaux any longer, he didn't seem very good after coming back from injury. Hope that was timing from being off and then a new injury, hope he can get back to what we had before that, but right now we have very suspect CB's, again. Glad Kenny served his four game suspension.

I would argue against FA CB for the most part based on the CB in the draft with solid builds. just to name a few

Marlon Humphrey CB/FS Alabama 6005 196 4.49 #26 rSo
Quincy Wilson CB/FS Florida 6012 211 4.54 #6 Jr
Cordrea Tankersley CB/FS Clemson 6002 195 4.48 #25
Gareon Conley CB OSU 6002 195 4.50 #8 rJr
Tre'Davious White, CB, LSU 5111 191 4.48 Jr
Brandon Facyson CB Virginia Tech 6011 191 4.52 #31 Jr
Chidobe Awuzie CB Colorado 5113 205 4.56 #4 Sr
Rasul Douglas CB West Virginia:6012 208 4.56 #13 rSr
Fabian Moreau CB UCLA 5115 200 4.52 #10 rSr
Treston Decoud CB Oregon State 6020 4.54 208 #14 Sr

I would not mind the saints using multiple picks on the secondary players.

Shame to waste to much on defense that no matter what will still be going through growing pain.

[The Dude]

Originally Posted by spkb25

I am not arguing to spend big on a CB in Free Agency, but PJ Williams has been in the field for like 1.5 games in 2 years. Yes he had potential, but no idea how long he can remain on the field.

I have no idea what we have in Breaux any longer, he didn't seem very good after coming back from injury. Hope that was timing from being off and then a new injury, hope he can get back to what we had before that, but right now we have very suspect CB's, again. Glad Kenny served his four game suspension.

I have never been comfortable with Breaux as a starter. I like his story but it like we are banking on him being a number one based on his rookie year. Next to Browner anyone would look good. Breaux drew a lot of penalties last year and his play did drop off towards the end of the year.

I have no idea why anyone would have any faith in Breaux as a number one. Maybe he can be, but I wouldnt go around thinking we have that side of the field taken care of. Still a lot of unknown surrounding him. We need immediete help on offensive line, and definitely a proven pass rusher.