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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Some Free Agents Still Available - S Tim McDonald LB Gerald Hodges LB Zach Brown LB Perry Riley DE Elvis Dumervil S Isa Abdul-Quddus (Injured) LB DeAndre Levy DT Sen'Derrick Marks DE Jared Odrick S Lardarius Webb RB Jamaal Charles ...

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Old 03-29-2017, 09:43 AM   #1
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Re: 2017 Free Agency thread anyone?

Some Free Agents Still Available -

S Tim McDonald

LB Gerald Hodges

LB Zach Brown

LB Perry Riley

DE Elvis Dumervil

S Isa Abdul-Quddus (Injured)

LB DeAndre Levy

DT Sen'Derrick Marks

DE Jared Odrick

S Lardarius Webb

RB Jamaal Charles

CB Sam Shields

S Corey Graham


Now, Odrick, Shields and Graham would interest me for depth...
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Old 03-29-2017, 10:32 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Some Free Agents Still Available -

LB Gerald Hodges

LB Zach Brown

CB Sam Shields
Kind of surprised both of the aforementioned LB's are still available. Both talented guys at the position.

Shields recent drug arrest and prior injury history certainly doesn't help his case. Good player when healthy though.
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Old 03-29-2017, 04:10 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Some Free Agents Still Available -

S Tim McDonald

LB Gerald Hodges

LB Zach Brown

LB Perry Riley

DE Elvis Dumervil

S Isa Abdul-Quddus (Injured)

LB DeAndre Levy

DT Sen'Derrick Marks

DE Jared Odrick

S Lardarius Webb

RB Jamaal Charles

CB Sam Shields

S Corey Graham


Now, Odrick, Shields and Graham would interest me for depth...
Johnathan Hankins solidify the DT rotation should be able to steal him with a one year deal
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Old 03-29-2017, 04:18 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by hagan714 View Post
Johnathan Hankins solidify the DT rotation should be able to steal him with a one year deal
Hankins does have two of Payton's favorite qualities just like Warford...

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Old 03-29-2017, 06:45 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by hagan714 View Post
Johnathan Hankins solidify the DT rotation should be able to steal him with a one year deal
DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

Hagan, look at our rotation, where's he gonna play?

Now, let's say Ony kicks out to DE, which I think he'd excel; in fact, I'd draft a DE with a first or second and draft Vanderdoes in the third...

Still look at what you've got...

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 92 - Justin Zimmer

NT (2) 00- Jonathan Hankins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

So are you going to sit a first round pick (Rankins), not that this team has done it recently, or...

Are you gonna bring Fairley in for passing downs? After committing that much cap space to him?

I think we're done with DTs unless Ony moves to DE full-time, and we draft a DT...

It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

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Old 03-31-2017, 05:01 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
DT (2) 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata, 92 - Justin Zimmer

NT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry

Hagan, look at our rotation, where's he gonna play?

Now, let's say Ony kicks out to DE, which I think he'd excel; in fact, I'd draft a DE with a first or second and draft Vanderdoes in the third...
Still weak against the run and keeping LB clean. Gotta get off the love for sack and pressure stats

Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Still look at what you've got...

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 98 - Sheldon Rankins, 92 - Justin Zimmer

NT (2) 00- Jonathan Hankins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry


So are you going to sit a first round pick (Rankins), not that this team has done it recently, or...

Are you gonna bring Fairley in for passing downs? After committing that much cap space to him?

I think we're done with DTs unless Ony moves to DE full-time, and we draft a DT...
looks better.
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Old 03-29-2017, 10:35 AM   #7
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Payton: Saints won't give up No. 11 for Malcolm Butler - NFL.com

Cross off one path in Malcolm Butler's Choose Your Own Adventure offseason.

New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton said the team would not sign the New England Patriots corner to an offer sheet and give up the No. 11 pick.

"Currently it's my understanding that he hasn't signed his tender," Payton said at the Annual League Meeting on Wednesday. "We can sign him to an offer sheet, but I don't think we're going to do that and give up the 11th pick. In fact, I know we won't do that. So it is what it is right now."

Payton's definitive response nixes one of Butler's options in an effort to earn a long-term deal.

The coach wouldn't speculate on any potential trade scenarios that could bring Butler to New Orleans. If the Saints won't sign the 27-year-old corner to an offer sheet, a trade is the only option to pry him away from New England this season.

Patriots owner Robert Kraft said earlier in the week the team doesn't currently intend on trading Butler -- though Bill Belichick could change course if offered the right bounty.

If the Saints won't hand Butler an official offer sheet -- and no other team steps up out of the mist -- the corner will eventually be forced to sign his restricted free-agent tender.

At that point the Patriots could trade him to the highest bidder, where Butler would likely get the long-term deal he's seeking. The Super Bowl XLIX hero could also play out the season on the low-cost $3.91 million tender before hitting the open market next year.

It's not a surprise that the Saints wouldn't fork over the No. 11 pick and hand Butler a massive contract in one swoop. Hearing Sean Payton say it outright, however, certainly helps the Patriots' leverage in convincing the undrafted free agent to give them one more year of cheap labor.

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Old 03-29-2017, 10:55 AM   #8
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Payton: Saints won't give up No. 11 for Malcolm Butler - NFL.com

Cross off one path in Malcolm Butler's Choose Your Own Adventure offseason.

New Orleans Saints coach Sean Payton said the team would not sign the New England Patriots corner to an offer sheet and give up the No. 11 pick.

"Currently it's my understanding that he hasn't signed his tender," Payton said at the Annual League Meeting on Wednesday. "We can sign him to an offer sheet, but I don't think we're going to do that and give up the 11th pick. In fact, I know we won't do that. So it is what it is right now."

Payton's definitive response nixes one of Butler's options in an effort to earn a long-term deal.

The coach wouldn't speculate on any potential trade scenarios that could bring Butler to New Orleans. If the Saints won't sign the 27-year-old corner to an offer sheet, a trade is the only option to pry him away from New England this season.

Patriots owner Robert Kraft said earlier in the week the team doesn't currently intend on trading Butler -- though Bill Belichick could change course if offered the right bounty.

If the Saints won't hand Butler an official offer sheet -- and no other team steps up out of the mist -- the corner will eventually be forced to sign his restricted free-agent tender.

At that point the Patriots could trade him to the highest bidder, where Butler would likely get the long-term deal he's seeking. The Super Bowl XLIX hero could also play out the season on the low-cost $3.91 million tender before hitting the open market next year.

It's not a surprise that the Saints wouldn't fork over the No. 11 pick and hand Butler a massive contract in one swoop. Hearing Sean Payton say it outright, however, certainly helps the Patriots' leverage in convincing the undrafted free agent to give them one more year of cheap labor.
This verifies what I have been saying all along. The #11 pick was never in play. It was only speculation by two Boston based media outlets. It should surprise me how many people read the headline and jump to the totally false conclusion ... but it doesn't. Today's society, in general, has become lazy and seldom reads any further than the headline and the intro paragraph in the frenzy for click bait feeders.
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Old 03-29-2017, 11:58 AM   #9
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"...though Bill Belichick could change course if offered the right bounty."
Somebody thought they were being cute.
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Old 03-29-2017, 11:43 AM   #10
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Why Saints suck on defense year in and year out:


You first sign players and then try to figure out where they fit.
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