Sean Payton tells WWL Radio: “My plan is definitely to be back here"

AsylumGuido · 01-03-2017, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Well no, but by week 2 they'll all be back on IR or out 8 weeks again

So another Head Coach will keep them all healthy.

Can you not understand how that sounds? Are you serious?

spkb25 · 01-03-2017, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

So another Head Coach will keep them all healthy.

Can you not understand how that sounds? Are you serious?

we are 7-9 3 straight years and it has happened almost identically, do you understand how that appears. It is a trend sir. I hope we win the sb next year, but 7-9 3 straight years cannot continued to be blamed on injuries.

AsylumGuido · 01-03-2017, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

we are 7-9 3 straight years and it has happened almost identically, do you understand how that appears. It is a trend sir. I hope we win the sb next year, but 7-9 3 straight years cannot continued to be blamed on injuries.

Only this season can be blamed on injuries. The previous two season's failure were based upon crappy defense. Considering the defensive scheme was being rotated annually that is not surprising. A healthy defensive roster coupled with a consistent scheme has to be more successful.

spkb25 · 01-04-2017, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Only this season can be blamed on injuries. The previous two season's failure were based upon crappy defense. Considering the defensive scheme was being rotated annually that is not surprising. A healthy defensive roster coupled with a consistent scheme has to be more successful.

we had just as many injuries bro. '14 too if I remember correctly since we were starting the likes of Terrence Frederick

When you're losing everyone goes to IR, that's the secret coaches friend.

Just want to make sure that the 7-9 seasons haven't been a result of poor FA judgement and drafting? Cause we have got a lot out of Byrd, Champ, laurinaitis, Browner, Spiller

Don't even get us started on the draft classes over the last 5 seasons.

Maybe the problems are poor cap management for years, bad FA contracts and signings, and poor draft evaluations. Yeah, that seems fairly accurate.

AsylumGuido · 01-04-2017, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

we had just as many injuries bro. '14 too if I remember correctly since we were starting the likes of Terrence Frederick

When you're losing everyone goes to IR, that's the secret coaches friend.

Just want to make sure that the 7-9 seasons haven't been a result of poor FA judgement and drafting? Cause we have got a lot out of Byrd, Champ, laurinaitis, Browner, Spiller

Don't even get us started on the draft classes over the last 5 seasons.

Maybe the problems are poor cap management for years, bad FA contracts and signings, and poor draft evaluations. Yeah, that seems fairly accurate.

I'll agree with you that bad decisions WERE made, but look at the last two drafts. They have actually been quite good. The team is trending upward and cannot be judged upon past decisions come and gone at this point.

Tobias-Reiper · 01-04-2017, 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

So another Head Coach will keep them all healthy.

Can you not understand how that sounds? Are you serious?

Objectively, all NFL teams have to deal with injuries. It's just part of the game. If you look at the Saints website, the 7-9 Saints list 12 players in IR; the 11-5 Giants list 11... The 12-4 Chiefs list 5 players on defense... the 7-8-1 Cardinals list 13...

Now, I am not going to present and in-depth study of injuries in the NFL, but there are valid questions that can be posed, like what causes your team to consistently, year after year, have an inordinate amount of injuries that prevent players from playing? Surely the game is hard enough, and most players play hurt to some level... but, is the team doing enough to prevent injuries? Is the training staff doing its job in properly preparing players for games? Is the medical staff doing enough to diagnose and prevent injuries? Is the team disregarding, or not able to properly assess, the health of players when they are signed?

Now, who's responsible for overseeing all of that? I don't know. BUT, given what we know of Payton, would you be surprised if, say, the training staff was not up to par, and Payton refuses to dismiss it?

01-03-2017, 07:16 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Sean Payton tells WWL Radio: “My plan is definitely to be back here" Originally Posted by spkb25 Well no, but by week 2 they'll all be back on IR or out 8 weeks again So another Head Coach will keep them all healthy. Can you not understand how that sounds? Are you serious? K Major likes this.

01-03-2017, 08:47 PM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Sean Payton tells WWL Radio: “My plan is definitely to be back here" Originally Posted by AsylumGuido So another Head Coach will keep them all healthy. Can you not understand how that sounds? Are you serious? we are 7-9 3 straight years and it has happened almost identically, do you understand how that appears. It is a trend sir. I hope we win the sb next year, but 7-9 3 straight years cannot continued to be blamed on injuries.

01-03-2017, 08:55 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Sean Payton tells WWL Radio: “My plan is definitely to be back here" Originally Posted by spkb25 we are 7-9 3 straight years and it has happened almost identically, do you understand how that appears. It is a trend sir. I hope we win the sb next year, but 7-9 3 straight years cannot continued to be blamed on injuries. Only this season can be blamed on injuries. The previous two season's failure were based upon crappy defense. Considering the defensive scheme was being rotated annually that is not surprising. A healthy defensive roster coupled with a consistent scheme has to be more successful.

01-04-2017, 05:25 AM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: Sean Payton tells WWL Radio: “My plan is definitely to be back here" Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Only this season can be blamed on injuries. The previous two season's failure were based upon crappy defense. Considering the defensive scheme was being rotated annually that is not surprising. A healthy defensive roster coupled with a consistent scheme has to be more successful. we had just as many injuries bro. '14 too if I remember correctly since we were starting the likes of Terrence Frederick When you're losing everyone goes to IR, that's the secret coaches friend. Just want to make sure that the 7-9 seasons haven't been a result of poor FA judgement and drafting? Cause we have got a lot out of Byrd, Champ, laurinaitis, Browner, Spiller Don't even get us started on the draft classes over the last 5 seasons. Maybe the problems are poor cap management for years, bad FA contracts and signings, and poor draft evaluations. Yeah, that seems fairly accurate.
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01-04-2017, 02:01 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Sean Payton tells WWL Radio: “My plan is definitely to be back here" Originally Posted by spkb25 we had just as many injuries bro. '14 too if I remember correctly since we were starting the likes of Terrence Frederick When you're losing everyone goes to IR, that's the secret coaches friend. Just want to make sure that the 7-9 seasons haven't been a result of poor FA judgement and drafting? Cause we have got a lot out of Byrd, Champ, laurinaitis, Browner, Spiller Don't even get us started on the draft classes over the last 5 seasons. Maybe the problems are poor cap management for years, bad FA contracts and signings, and poor draft evaluations. Yeah, that seems fairly accurate. I'll agree with you that bad decisions WERE made, but look at the last two drafts. They have actually been quite good. The team is trending upward and cannot be judged upon past decisions come and gone at this point.

01-04-2017, 03:28 AM	#6
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Sean Payton tells WWL Radio: “My plan is definitely to be back here" Originally Posted by AsylumGuido So another Head Coach will keep them all healthy. Can you not understand how that sounds? Are you serious? Objectively, all NFL teams have to deal with injuries. It's just part of the game. If you look at the Saints website, the 7-9 Saints list 12 players in IR; the 11-5 Giants list 11... The 12-4 Chiefs list 5 players on defense... the 7-8-1 Cardinals list 13... Now, I am not going to present and in-depth study of injuries in the NFL, but there are valid questions that can be posed, like what causes your team to consistently, year after year, have an inordinate amount of injuries that prevent players from playing? Surely the game is hard enough, and most players play hurt to some level... but, is the team doing enough to prevent injuries? Is the training staff doing its job in properly preparing players for games? Is the medical staff doing enough to diagnose and prevent injuries? Is the team disregarding, or not able to properly assess, the health of players when they are signed? Now, who's responsible for overseeing all of that? I don't know. BUT, given what we know of Payton, would you be surprised if, say, the training staff was not up to par, and Payton refuses to dismiss it? spkb25 likes this.
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