Terrelle Pryor as a Saint WR... should we?

Crusader · 01-05-2017, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

What if there's money left over and he's affordable?

Then I'd say sign him in a heartbeat. Unfortunately I believe he will get paid like a #1 WR.

Danno · 01-05-2017, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

What if there's money left over and he's affordable?

Thats what I was about to post. Its not like signing this guy is gonna keep us from spending on defense.

We desperately need a returner. (someone said he returns kicks, but I don't see that anywhere)

How much would this guy cost us? Whats his market?

rezburna · 01-05-2017, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Thats what I was about to post. Its not like signing this guy is gonna keep us from spending on defense.

We desperately need a returner. (someone said he returns kicks, but I don't see that anywhere)

How much would this guy cost us? Whats his market?

I think he's a high end #2 receiver. Whatever Snead's value on the market is I'd say Pryor is worth about $2 million more.

Utah_Saint · 01-05-2017, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Thats what I was about to post. Its not like signing this guy is gonna keep us from spending on defense.

We desperately need a returner. (someone said he returns kicks, but I don't see that anywhere)

How much would this guy cost us? Whats his market?

According to Yahoo Sports, Pryor will probably get Tavon Austin kinda money, $42mil over 4 years with $25mil guaranteed.

Terrelle Pryor quit being stubborn and it could result in $42M payoff

Most of y'all are better at this salary cap stuff than I am but...

In theory...

Pryor $11mil
Shut down corner $12.5mil (Janoris Jenkins money)
High end guard $10mil (J.R. Sweezy money)

$33.5 million (high end estimates, could be lower)
$36 million under the cap (New Orleans Saints 2017 Salary Cap Table | Spotrac)

Monster DE at #11 in April

So it does look like it's doable.

WR isn't really a need but having Cooks, Thomas, Snead and Pryor definitely wouldn't hurt my feelings.

Danno · 01-05-2017, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

According to Yahoo Sports, Pryor will probably get Tavon Austin kinda money, $42mil over 4 years with $25mil guaranteed.

Terrelle Pryor quit being stubborn and it could result in $42M payoff

Most of y'all are better at this salary cap stuff than I am but...

In theory...

Pryor $11mil
Shut down corner $12.5mil (Janoris Jenkins money)
High end guard $10mil (J.R. Sweezy money)

$33.5 million (high end estimates, could be lower)
$36 million under the cap (New Orleans Saints 2017 Salary Cap Table | Spotrac)

Monster DE at #11 in April

So it does look like it's doable.

WR isn't really a need but having Cooks, Thomas, Snead and Pryor definitely wouldn't hurt my feelings.

If thats what he demands, NFW!!!

MatthewT · 01-05-2017, 11:49 AM

I am going to say no to him, unless by some miraculous chance he comes inexpensive. I do not think the Saints should look at any high priced free agents. But with that said, I think Pryor would fit in very nice on the Saints roster, teaming him up with Sneed, Cooks, Thomas, and Coleman could actually improve an already great group.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 01-05-2017, 12:12 PM

While the Saints defense made progress, they still ended up the 31st ranked scoring defense in 2016. So unless Pryor can be a healthy shutdown corner or effectively rush the passer, adding any offensive player that isn't a lineman really doesn't make a lot of sense.

Maybe some folks missed the reference in the final game that the 2016 Saints are only the 2nd team in NFL history to have a 5000 yd QB, 2 1000+ yard receivers, and a 1000+ yard rusher on the the same team.
While the Saints offense can sometimes be inconsistent and slow starting, there really isn't a fundamental problem with offensive production.

Unfortunately the 2 Falcons games illustrate where resources need to be allocated. Scoring 32 points in each game and losing both doesn't mean that you need more offense.

SFIAH

ChrisXVI · 01-05-2017, 12:20 PM

I will say this... we were in the same situation last offseason being in dire straits defensively and our big money signing was Coby Fleener. Payton loves his weapons so who knows?!

Beastmode · 01-05-2017, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

I will say this... we were in the same situation last offseason being in dire straits defensively and our big money signing was Coby Fleener. Payton loves his weapons so who knows?!

Yeah but Fleener can't play QB or do returns. Likely not going to happen though. Our D and OL needs the upgrades. If not for that then I could see it.

dizzle88 · 01-05-2017, 02:01 PM

Michael Thomas is more grounded and will become a much better football player than Pryor.

We don't need him.

01-05-2017, 03:33 PM	#3
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,095	Re: Terrelle Pryor as a Saint WR... should we? Originally Posted by Danno Thats what I was about to post. Its not like signing this guy is gonna keep us from spending on defense. We desperately need a returner. (someone said he returns kicks, but I don't see that anywhere) How much would this guy cost us? Whats his market? I think he's a high end #2 receiver. Whatever Snead's value on the market is I'd say Pryor is worth about $2 million more.

01-05-2017, 07:18 PM	#4
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Terrelle Pryor as a Saint WR... should we? Originally Posted by Danno Thats what I was about to post. Its not like signing this guy is gonna keep us from spending on defense. We desperately need a returner. (someone said he returns kicks, but I don't see that anywhere) How much would this guy cost us? Whats his market? According to Yahoo Sports, Pryor will probably get Tavon Austin kinda money, $42mil over 4 years with $25mil guaranteed. Terrelle Pryor quit being stubborn and it could result in $42M payoff Most of y'all are better at this salary cap stuff than I am but... In theory... Pryor $11mil Shut down corner $12.5mil (Janoris Jenkins money) High end guard $10mil (J.R. Sweezy money) $33.5 million (high end estimates, could be lower) $36 million under the cap (New Orleans Saints 2017 Salary Cap Table \| Spotrac) Monster DE at #11 in April So it does look like it's doable. WR isn't really a need but having Cooks, Thomas, Snead and Pryor definitely wouldn't hurt my feelings. Danno, SmashMouth and Beastmode like this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Re: Terrelle Pryor as a Saint WR... should we? Originally Posted by Utah_Saint According to Yahoo Sports, Pryor will probably get Tavon Austin kinda money, $42mil over 4 years with $25mil guaranteed. Terrelle Pryor quit being stubborn and it could result in $42M payoff Most of y'all are better at this salary cap stuff than I am but... In theory... Pryor $11mil Shut down corner $12.5mil (Janoris Jenkins money) High end guard $10mil (J.R. Sweezy money) $33.5 million (high end estimates, could be lower) $36 million under the cap (New Orleans Saints 2017 Salary Cap Table \| Spotrac) Monster DE at #11 in April So it does look like it's doable. WR isn't really a need but having Cooks, Thomas, Snead and Pryor definitely wouldn't hurt my feelings. If thats what he demands, NFW!!!

01-05-2017, 11:49 AM	#6
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Terrelle Pryor as a Saint WR... should we? I am going to say no to him, unless by some miraculous chance he comes inexpensive. I do not think the Saints should look at any high priced free agents. But with that said, I think Pryor would fit in very nice on the Saints roster, teaming him up with Sneed, Cooks, Thomas, and Coleman could actually improve an already great group.

01-05-2017, 12:12 PM	#7
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: Terrelle Pryor as a Saint WR... should we? While the Saints defense made progress, they still ended up the 31st ranked scoring defense in 2016. So unless Pryor can be a healthy shutdown corner or effectively rush the passer, adding any offensive player that isn't a lineman really doesn't make a lot of sense. Maybe some folks missed the reference in the final game that the 2016 Saints are only the 2nd team in NFL history to have a 5000 yd QB, 2 1000+ yard receivers, and a 1000+ yard rusher on the the same team. While the Saints offense can sometimes be inconsistent and slow starting, there really isn't a fundamental problem with offensive production. Unfortunately the 2 Falcons games illustrate where resources need to be allocated. Scoring 32 points in each game and losing both doesn't mean that you need more offense. SFIAH frydaddy, bobdog86 and ctsaint01 like this.
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01-05-2017, 03:05 PM	#1
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,044	Re: Terrelle Pryor as a Saint WR... should we? Originally Posted by rezburna What if there's money left over and he's affordable? Then I'd say sign him in a heartbeat. Unfortunately I believe he will get paid like a #1 WR.

01-05-2017, 03:17 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,757	Re: Terrelle Pryor as a Saint WR... should we? Originally Posted by rezburna What if there's money left over and he's affordable? Thats what I was about to post. Its not like signing this guy is gonna keep us from spending on defense. We desperately need a returner. (someone said he returns kicks, but I don't see that anywhere) How much would this guy cost us? Whats his market? MatthewT likes this.

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