This is a decent aricle

AsylumGuido · 01-07-2017, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

The offense can't make that excuse in the games where they were at their worst. The defense showed up in all the games where the offense went silent.

So while I agree in principle with what you're saying about playing catch up, it didn't necessarily apply to this team. When we only needed a decent performance from the offense, they were terrible. In games when we only needed the defense to have a slight pulse, they didn't have one.

On average, the defense was obviously the bigger problem. But the offense had no excuse in those games where they completely disappeared. Add in the horrid special teams play, and the bottom line is this team couldn't find a way to play together often enough to win. They found ways to lose.

While the offense had no excuse, with an improved defense and special teams they can easily take us to the Super Bowl. Do you doubt that?

burningmetal · 01-07-2017, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

While the offense had no excuse, with an improved defense and special teams they can easily take us to the Super Bowl. Do you doubt that?

That wasn't the discussion. There was a specific argument made that the offense failed to show up in certain games, and some make the argument that the defense puts too much pressure on the offense. That is a logical argument in many cases, but my point was simply that it didn't apply to this team. My comment wasn't about how good or bad the offense is, overall.

Are they good enough to win the Super Bowl if the defense and special teams improve? Maybe. That depends on just how much improvement we're talking about. Because the problem with this offense disappearing against some of the better teams on our schedule, is that if we're going to make a run through the playoffs, that can't happen.

We still have to improve guard play, and I would prefer to replace Strief, also. It's an offense that's easily good enough to make the playoffs, but Super Bowl? That's a maybe, but not about to be easy, in my opinion.

spkb25 · 01-07-2017, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

That wasn't the discussion. There was a specific argument made that the offense failed to show up in certain games, and some make the argument that the defense puts too much pressure on the offense. That is a logical argument in many cases, but my point was simply that it didn't apply to this team. My comment wasn't about how good or bad the offense is, overall.

Are they good enough to win the Super Bowl if the defense and special teams improve? Maybe. That depends on just how much improvement we're talking about. Because the problem with this offense disappearing against some of the better teams on our schedule, is that if we're going to make a run through the playoffs, that can't happen.

We still have to improve guard play, and I would prefer to replace Strief, also. It's an offense that's easily good enough to make the playoffs, but Super Bowl? That's a maybe, but not about to be easy, in my opinion.

Another solid post

halloween 65 · 01-07-2017, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

That wasn't the discussion. There was a specific argument made that the offense failed to show up in certain games, and some make the argument that the defense puts too much pressure on the offense. That is a logical argument in many cases, but my point was simply that it didn't apply to this team. My comment wasn't about how good or bad the offense is, overall.

Are they good enough to win the Super Bowl if the defense and special teams improve? Maybe. That depends on just how much improvement we're talking about. Because the problem with this offense disappearing against some of the better teams on our schedule, is that if we're going to make a run through the playoffs, that can't happen.

We still have to improve guard play, and I would prefer to replace Strief, also. It's an offense that's easily good enough to make the playoffs, but Super Bowl? That's a maybe, but not about to be easy, in my opinion.

That pretty much sums it all up. Well said. How much improvement is the key!!

AsylumGuido · 01-07-2017, 08:24 PM

Why don't you share a room? LOL!

Rugby Saint II · 01-08-2017, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Why don't you share a room? LOL!

Let's go camping!

01-07-2017, 05:20 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: This is a decent aricle Originally Posted by burningmetal The offense can't make that excuse in the games where they were at their worst. The defense showed up in all the games where the offense went silent. So while I agree in principle with what you're saying about playing catch up, it didn't necessarily apply to this team. When we only needed a decent performance from the offense, they were terrible. In games when we only needed the defense to have a slight pulse, they didn't have one. On average, the defense was obviously the bigger problem. But the offense had no excuse in those games where they completely disappeared. Add in the horrid special teams play, and the bottom line is this team couldn't find a way to play together often enough to win. They found ways to lose. While the offense had no excuse, with an improved defense and special teams they can easily take us to the Super Bowl. Do you doubt that?

01-07-2017, 06:03 PM	#2
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: This is a decent aricle Originally Posted by AsylumGuido While the offense had no excuse, with an improved defense and special teams they can easily take us to the Super Bowl. Do you doubt that? That wasn't the discussion. There was a specific argument made that the offense failed to show up in certain games, and some make the argument that the defense puts too much pressure on the offense. That is a logical argument in many cases, but my point was simply that it didn't apply to this team. My comment wasn't about how good or bad the offense is, overall. Are they good enough to win the Super Bowl if the defense and special teams improve? Maybe. That depends on just how much improvement we're talking about. Because the problem with this offense disappearing against some of the better teams on our schedule, is that if we're going to make a run through the playoffs, that can't happen. We still have to improve guard play, and I would prefer to replace Strief, also. It's an offense that's easily good enough to make the playoffs, but Super Bowl? That's a maybe, but not about to be easy, in my opinion. spkb25 and halloween 65 like this.
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01-07-2017, 06:05 PM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: This is a decent aricle Originally Posted by burningmetal That wasn't the discussion. There was a specific argument made that the offense failed to show up in certain games, and some make the argument that the defense puts too much pressure on the offense. That is a logical argument in many cases, but my point was simply that it didn't apply to this team. My comment wasn't about how good or bad the offense is, overall. Are they good enough to win the Super Bowl if the defense and special teams improve? Maybe. That depends on just how much improvement we're talking about. Because the problem with this offense disappearing against some of the better teams on our schedule, is that if we're going to make a run through the playoffs, that can't happen. We still have to improve guard play, and I would prefer to replace Strief, also. It's an offense that's easily good enough to make the playoffs, but Super Bowl? That's a maybe, but not about to be easy, in my opinion. Another solid post

01-07-2017, 07:17 PM	#4
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: This is a decent aricle Originally Posted by burningmetal That wasn't the discussion. There was a specific argument made that the offense failed to show up in certain games, and some make the argument that the defense puts too much pressure on the offense. That is a logical argument in many cases, but my point was simply that it didn't apply to this team. My comment wasn't about how good or bad the offense is, overall. Are they good enough to win the Super Bowl if the defense and special teams improve? Maybe. That depends on just how much improvement we're talking about. Because the problem with this offense disappearing against some of the better teams on our schedule, is that if we're going to make a run through the playoffs, that can't happen. We still have to improve guard play, and I would prefer to replace Strief, also. It's an offense that's easily good enough to make the playoffs, but Super Bowl? That's a maybe, but not about to be easy, in my opinion. That pretty much sums it all up. Well said. How much improvement is the key!! spkb25 likes this.

01-07-2017, 08:24 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: This is a decent aricle Why don't you share a room? LOL!

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: This is a decent aricle Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Why don't you share a room? LOL! Let's go camping!

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