Robert Meachem GoFundMe Account

spkb25 · 01-14-2017, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

$400,000???

And thats just the unpaid portion. Wow!

If we were to put that over 18 years that's 22,000. a year or 1851. a month. There are adults who live off of less. It's a joke.

Crusader · 01-14-2017, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I have no issues paying mine. While I agree that it seems unfair and sometimes is, it's based on your income. If you can't pay the money, then it has to be amended through the court.

So If he could show that he is broke, would the debt be written off and the monthly payments changed to something more reasonable?

jnormand · 01-14-2017, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

So If he could show that he is broke, would the debt be written off and the monthly payments changed to something more reasonable?

Probably not the current debt. Because that is back owed. But future payments would be lower. So basically, if I change jobs and my income goes to crap, I can call the state and they can amend my current payments. They basically make you pay a percentage of your income. The more you make, the more you pay. The less you make, the less you pay. It's always about the same percentage. The income changes will change he payment.

jnormand · 01-14-2017, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I am willing to bet you don't pay 400,000 either. Again, it shouldn't be based on how much you earn, that doesn't make sense. A child is a child is a child so why would his child cost more than your child? It is supposed to be support for a child, and if the father has so much money that the child's life should improve with the income he earns then the child should be placed with the father due to the means with which he can provide said support.

I think Ray Carruth is a murderer, but I also think he was young. Laws like this drive people to do insane things. Fear is a hell of a motivator. The system is unfair and until it is reformed you're going to see husbands and father doing things they may not have done otherwise.

I see your point and I agree. But let's look at it like this....If I pay say 15% of my annual salary for CS and I make 60,000 a year. And he pays 15% of his and he makes 5 million a year, he's obviously gonna pay much more.

Now that seems unfair to the guy right?

Okay, well of the state says OK everyone, it's now only going to cost 2000 a month for child support for everyone....That's a huge chunk out of a person's wallet that doesn't make much compared to a drop in the bucket for someone who is rich.

I guess my point here is....There's no real fair way. Someone is gonna take a hit. With taking a percentage of a person's salary, it keeps the CS a constant. It takes as much from the poor guy as the rich guy.

Not a perfect system. But it's the system.

Crusader · 01-15-2017, 05:56 AM

Well you could make it a percentage of a persons salary and then cap it at a certain figure. So a person with a lesser income would have to pay less than that figure and no matter if I made a billion a year I'd still only pay the cap number.

spkb25 · 01-15-2017, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

I see your point and I agree. But let's look at it like this....If I pay say 15% of my annual salary for CS and I make 60,000 a year. And he pays 15% of his and he makes 5 million a year, he's obviously gonna pay much more.

Now that seems unfair to the guy right?

Okay, well of the state says OK everyone, it's now only going to cost 2000 a month for child support for everyone....That's a huge chunk out of a person's wallet that doesn't make much compared to a drop in the bucket for someone who is rich.

I guess my point here is....There's no real fair way. Someone is gonna take a hit. With taking a percentage of a person's salary, it keeps the CS a constant. It takes as much from the poor guy as the rich guy.

Not a perfect system. But it's the system.

I understand your point there, so I agree with cru, it is a % of your salary to a max amount it takes to raise a child. Boom, fair and done.

The thing is the system is stupid as well because if a man makes 120,000.00 in a year and that year had a bunch of OT and then the economy tanks and OT goes away he is still said to be able to make 120,000.00 because he did it in the past. It is a completely ****ed up system, but I think the cap is a great idea!

jeanpierre · 01-15-2017, 07:40 AM

Child Support should be based at 35% above poverty.

Most of that $400K should have gone into trust until child was 30, unless the child showed aptitude and college based need, then withdrawals directly to the school could be made...

Judges and Lawyers wrapping themselves in self-righteousness and sticking it to everyone they can while self-enriching their finances...smh

saintfan · 01-15-2017, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Child Support should be based at 35% above poverty.

Most of that $400K should have gone into trust until child was 30, unless the child showed aptitude and college based need, then withdrawals directly to the school could be made...

Judges and Lawyers wrapping themselves in self-righteousness and sticking it to everyone they can while self-enriching their finances...smh

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Rugby Saint II · 01-17-2017, 02:21 PM

Not one mention of why men don't get custody and make the women pay child support?

01-14-2017, 06:27 PM	#11
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Robert Meachem GoFundMe Account Originally Posted by Danno $400,000??? And thats just the unpaid portion. Wow! If we were to put that over 18 years that's 22,000. a year or 1851. a month. There are adults who live off of less. It's a joke. ctsaint01 likes this.

01-14-2017, 07:01 PM	#12
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Robert Meachem GoFundMe Account Originally Posted by jnormand I have no issues paying mine. While I agree that it seems unfair and sometimes is, it's based on your income. If you can't pay the money, then it has to be amended through the court. So If he could show that he is broke, would the debt be written off and the monthly payments changed to something more reasonable?

01-14-2017, 09:55 PM	#13
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Re: Robert Meachem GoFundMe Account Originally Posted by Crusader So If he could show that he is broke, would the debt be written off and the monthly payments changed to something more reasonable? Probably not the current debt. Because that is back owed. But future payments would be lower. So basically, if I change jobs and my income goes to crap, I can call the state and they can amend my current payments. They basically make you pay a percentage of your income. The more you make, the more you pay. The less you make, the less you pay. It's always about the same percentage. The income changes will change he payment.

01-14-2017, 10:03 PM	#14
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Re: Robert Meachem GoFundMe Account Originally Posted by spkb25 I am willing to bet you don't pay 400,000 either. Again, it shouldn't be based on how much you earn, that doesn't make sense. A child is a child is a child so why would his child cost more than your child? It is supposed to be support for a child, and if the father has so much money that the child's life should improve with the income he earns then the child should be placed with the father due to the means with which he can provide said support. I think Ray Carruth is a murderer, but I also think he was young. Laws like this drive people to do insane things. Fear is a hell of a motivator. The system is unfair and until it is reformed you're going to see husbands and father doing things they may not have done otherwise. I see your point and I agree. But let's look at it like this....If I pay say 15% of my annual salary for CS and I make 60,000 a year. And he pays 15% of his and he makes 5 million a year, he's obviously gonna pay much more. Now that seems unfair to the guy right? Okay, well of the state says OK everyone, it's now only going to cost 2000 a month for child support for everyone....That's a huge chunk out of a person's wallet that doesn't make much compared to a drop in the bucket for someone who is rich. I guess my point here is....There's no real fair way. Someone is gonna take a hit. With taking a percentage of a person's salary, it keeps the CS a constant. It takes as much from the poor guy as the rich guy. Not a perfect system. But it's the system.

01-15-2017, 05:56 AM	#15
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Robert Meachem GoFundMe Account Well you could make it a percentage of a persons salary and then cap it at a certain figure. So a person with a lesser income would have to pay less than that figure and no matter if I made a billion a year I'd still only pay the cap number. spkb25 likes this.

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01-15-2017, 07:34 AM	#16
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Robert Meachem GoFundMe Account Originally Posted by jnormand I see your point and I agree. But let's look at it like this....If I pay say 15% of my annual salary for CS and I make 60,000 a year. And he pays 15% of his and he makes 5 million a year, he's obviously gonna pay much more. Now that seems unfair to the guy right? Okay, well of the state says OK everyone, it's now only going to cost 2000 a month for child support for everyone....That's a huge chunk out of a person's wallet that doesn't make much compared to a drop in the bucket for someone who is rich. I guess my point here is....There's no real fair way. Someone is gonna take a hit. With taking a percentage of a person's salary, it keeps the CS a constant. It takes as much from the poor guy as the rich guy. Not a perfect system. But it's the system. I understand your point there, so I agree with cru, it is a % of your salary to a max amount it takes to raise a child. Boom, fair and done. The thing is the system is stupid as well because if a man makes 120,000.00 in a year and that year had a bunch of OT and then the economy tanks and OT goes away he is still said to be able to make 120,000.00 because he did it in the past. It is a completely ****ed up system, but I think the cap is a great idea!
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