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SmashMouth 01-21-2017 09:05 AM

Good news, Saints: ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. thinks this is a great defensive draft
 
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The New Orleans Saints finished with the 27th-ranked defense in 2016, which was actually an improvement from the previous two seasons.

So, it stands to reason the Saints will look for defensive help in the draft in April, and one analyst Thursday said this is a good year to be in the market for defense.

"This is a great defensive line draft; it's a great defensive draft overall," ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. said while answering a question about possible first-round options for the Dallas Cowboys.

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Just about every mock draft we will see over the next few months will have the Saints picking a defensive player. Kiper had the Saints using the 11th overall pick on former Alabama linebacker Reuben Foster in his mock draft published Thursday morning.

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triman 01-21-2017 10:32 AM

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I have been looking at Mock Draft as I am want to do this time of year and if they are indicative of the way the draft will play out I see three players as probable picks for the Saints at#11.
Rueben Foster ILB


Derek Barnett De


Solomon Thomas DE

I would be thrilled with any one of these guys.

foreverfan 01-21-2017 04:40 PM

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I'd make some kind of trade so I'd have 5 picks to draft the best defensive people in the first 2 rounds.

hagan714 01-21-2017 06:13 PM

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actually i agree with mel for once

But what makes this really interesting is the way the rankings are falling which is like believing in ghost I know

deep at CB and I mean deep at starter quality all the way through the draft with solid upside prospects. many with FS possibilities. Big and fast

DE is ok early pretty solid in the middle and in the end I still have questions. heavy on 34 DE

gap shooting DT is not bad and there are some solid 43 NT types sprinkled all around.

Safety is a bit thin. I am hoping a deep CB class will allow a safety to slip through the cracks and be snagged on day 2

ILB and OLB looks to be a huge whole in the draft. WLB once again dominate. 43 SLB and MLB are almost non existence once again.

Crusader 01-21-2017 06:22 PM

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Mel Kiper??? What does Gil Brandt have to say about it? Him and Mayock are about the only two people I really listen to about the drafts.

SmashMouth 01-21-2017 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 734203)
I'd make some kind of trade so I'd have 5 picks to draft the best defensive people in the first 2 rounds.

So trade Ingram?

jeanpierre 01-21-2017 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 734203)
I'd make some kind of trade so I'd have 5 picks to draft the best defensive people in the first 2 rounds.

Armstead is about the only player we could afford to lose right now and gain a pick in the first two rounds...

And then you'd have Peat sliding to LT and signing two veteran guards, RG Kevin Zeiter and LG Andrew Norwell...

The only two players that would get interest in the trade market for first or second round picks are Cooks and Jordan...

This bullshinski talk of trading Cooks is asinine because Thomas-Cooks-Snead is as near a perfect complementary group you can have...

With Cam, You'd have to get a first round pick for Cam Jordan and THEN take a DE-5T in the draft who plays with his veteran impact...

halloween 65 01-22-2017 08:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 734203)
I'd make some kind of trade so I'd have 5 picks to draft the best defensive people in the first 2 rounds.

I'm still beating the drum for trading Vaccarro.

halloween 65 01-22-2017 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 734226)
Armstead is about the only player we could afford to lose right now and gain a pick in the first two rounds...

And then you'd have Peat sliding to LT and signing two veteran guards, RG Kevin Zeiter and LG Andrew Norwell...

The only two players that would get interest in the trade market for first or second round picks are Cooks and Jordan...

This bullshinski talk of trading Cooks is asinine because Thomas-Cooks-Snead is as near a perfect complementary group you can have...

With Cam, You'd have to get a first round pick for Cam Jordan and THEN take a DE-5T in the draft who plays with his veteran impact...

Good possibility Tomsula shakes up the D line if hired.

Seer1 01-22-2017 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 734243)
I'm still beating the drum for trading Vaccarro.

And fill that spot with...?

foreverfan 01-22-2017 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 734214)
So trade Ingram?

If it gets us the right freaking picks. Sure. :confused:

halloween 65 01-22-2017 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 734251)
And fill that spot with...?

Peppers + whatever bpa with the pick we get for Vaccarro. I'm not high on Vaccarro but I am on Peppers.

Rugby Saint II 01-22-2017 04:23 PM

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I'm not down with an Armstead trade but I'm warming up to the idea since Peat has only played well on the left side and isn't really a guard. He's done well enough at left tackle that if the offer was right I'd have to at least consider my options. We have a first round invested in Peat and we could get a good return for a third rounder in Armstead. If we did that trade then there are several good guard options available in free agency for both the left and right side.

ScottF 01-24-2017 12:32 PM

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I think we should trade Armstead and get a stud OT to build the line around. Someone like...well, Armstead.
Or we could skip a step and just keep him.

I'd be shocked if could get even a 5th for Vaccaro

AsylumGuido 01-24-2017 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 734560)
I think we should trade Armstead and get a stud OT to build the line around. Someone like...well, Armstead.
Or we could skip a step and just keep him.

I'd be shocked if could get even a 5th for Vaccaro

Vaccaro was one of our better players when he was forced to serve his suspension. I seriously doubt they would even consider parting ways with him.

SmashMouth 01-24-2017 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by foreverfan (Post 734262)
If it gets us the right freaking picks. Sure. :confused:

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foreverfan 01-24-2017 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 734565)

I said Picks...Not Titts. :D

K Major 01-24-2017 08:07 PM

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Three-round mock draft: Deshaun Watson goes No. 1 to Browns - NFL.com

st thomas 01-24-2017 08:34 PM

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les miles is gone we will draft 4 lsu players in 17, believe this, i heard it on sports show, thast the reason payton and lsu didnt mix was les miles, i really dont believe it but it sure got my attention lol

AsylumGuido 01-24-2017 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by st thomas (Post 734613)
les miles is gone we will draft 4 lsu players in 17, believe this, i heard it on sports show, thast the reason payton and lsu didnt mix was les miles, i really dont believe it but it sure got my attention lol

Your shift key broken? :D

darksoul35 01-25-2017 08:23 AM

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If Watson is there at 11 should we take him? I know we are hurting really bad at DE but I think Watson could be a franchise quarterback.

Rugby Saint II 01-26-2017 02:00 PM

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I'm beginning to think that the Saints should spend money on a DE and get a guard and corner in the draft. We finally have some spending money and desperately need a pass rush immediately. Not someone we have to develop for a couple of years.

jeanpierre 01-26-2017 02:49 PM

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We've got to secure a guard and pass rusher in free agency...

All things being equal when the draft is upon us and our selections are announced, I'd prefer to take a defender is they're two options of best player available...


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