Good news, Saints: ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. thinks this is a great defensive draft

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The New Orleans Saints finished with the 27th-ranked defense in 2016, which was actually an improvement from the previous two seasons.

So, it stands to reason the Saints will look for defensive help in the draft in April, and one analyst Thursday said this is a good year to be in the market for defense.

"This is a great defensive line draft; it's a great defensive draft overall," ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. said while answering a question about possible first-round options for the Dallas Cowboys.

Just about every mock draft we will see over the next few months will have the Saints picking a defensive player. Kiper had the Saints using the 11th overall pick on former Alabama linebacker Reuben Foster in his mock draft published Thursday morning.

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triman · 01-21-2017, 10:32 AM

I have been looking at Mock Draft as I am want to do this time of year and if they are indicative of the way the draft will play out I see three players as probable picks for the Saints at#11.
Rueben Foster ILB

Derek Barnett De

Solomon Thomas DE

I would be thrilled with any one of these guys.

foreverfan · 01-21-2017, 04:40 PM

I'd make some kind of trade so I'd have 5 picks to draft the best defensive people in the first 2 rounds.

hagan714 · 01-21-2017, 06:13 PM

actually i agree with mel for once

But what makes this really interesting is the way the rankings are falling which is like believing in ghost I know

deep at CB and I mean deep at starter quality all the way through the draft with solid upside prospects. many with FS possibilities. Big and fast

DE is ok early pretty solid in the middle and in the end I still have questions. heavy on 34 DE

gap shooting DT is not bad and there are some solid 43 NT types sprinkled all around.

Safety is a bit thin. I am hoping a deep CB class will allow a safety to slip through the cracks and be snagged on day 2

ILB and OLB looks to be a huge whole in the draft. WLB once again dominate. 43 SLB and MLB are almost non existence once again.

Crusader · 01-21-2017, 06:22 PM

Mel Kiper??? What does Gil Brandt have to say about it? Him and Mayock are about the only two people I really listen to about the drafts.

SmashMouth · 01-21-2017, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

I'd make some kind of trade so I'd have 5 picks to draft the best defensive people in the first 2 rounds.

So trade Ingram?

jeanpierre · 01-21-2017, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

I'd make some kind of trade so I'd have 5 picks to draft the best defensive people in the first 2 rounds.

Armstead is about the only player we could afford to lose right now and gain a pick in the first two rounds...

And then you'd have Peat sliding to LT and signing two veteran guards, RG Kevin Zeiter and LG Andrew Norwell...

The only two players that would get interest in the trade market for first or second round picks are Cooks and Jordan...

This bullshinski talk of trading Cooks is asinine because Thomas-Cooks-Snead is as near a perfect complementary group you can have...

With Cam, You'd have to get a first round pick for Cam Jordan and THEN take a DE-5T in the draft who plays with his veteran impact...

halloween 65 · 01-22-2017, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

I'd make some kind of trade so I'd have 5 picks to draft the best defensive people in the first 2 rounds.

I'm still beating the drum for trading Vaccarro.

halloween 65 · 01-22-2017, 08:30 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Armstead is about the only player we could afford to lose right now and gain a pick in the first two rounds...

And then you'd have Peat sliding to LT and signing two veteran guards, RG Kevin Zeiter and LG Andrew Norwell...

The only two players that would get interest in the trade market for first or second round picks are Cooks and Jordan...

This bullshinski talk of trading Cooks is asinine because Thomas-Cooks-Snead is as near a perfect complementary group you can have...

With Cam, You'd have to get a first round pick for Cam Jordan and THEN take a DE-5T in the draft who plays with his veteran impact...

Good possibility Tomsula shakes up the D line if hired.

Seer1 · 01-22-2017, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I'm still beating the drum for trading Vaccarro.

And fill that spot with...?

01-21-2017, 10:32 AM	#2
triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Re: Good news, Saints: ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. thinks this is a great defensive draft I have been looking at Mock Draft as I am want to do this time of year and if they are indicative of the way the draft will play out I see three players as probable picks for the Saints at#11. Rueben Foster ILB Derek Barnett De Solomon Thomas DE I would be thrilled with any one of these guys.
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foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Good news, Saints: ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. thinks this is a great defensive draft I'd make some kind of trade so I'd have 5 picks to draft the best defensive people in the first 2 rounds. hagan714, halloween 65, MarchingOn and 1 others like this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Good news, Saints: ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. thinks this is a great defensive draft actually i agree with mel for once But what makes this really interesting is the way the rankings are falling which is like believing in ghost I know deep at CB and I mean deep at starter quality all the way through the draft with solid upside prospects. many with FS possibilities. Big and fast DE is ok early pretty solid in the middle and in the end I still have questions. heavy on 34 DE gap shooting DT is not bad and there are some solid 43 NT types sprinkled all around. Safety is a bit thin. I am hoping a deep CB class will allow a safety to slip through the cracks and be snagged on day 2 ILB and OLB looks to be a huge whole in the draft. WLB once again dominate. 43 SLB and MLB are almost non existence once again. Rugby Saint II and halloween 65 like this.
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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,017	Re: Good news, Saints: ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. thinks this is a great defensive draft Mel Kiper??? What does Gil Brandt have to say about it? Him and Mayock are about the only two people I really listen to about the drafts. ScottF likes this.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Good news, Saints: ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. thinks this is a great defensive draft Originally Posted by foreverfan I'd make some kind of trade so I'd have 5 picks to draft the best defensive people in the first 2 rounds. So trade Ingram?

01-21-2017, 09:05 AM	#1
Threaded by SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,044 Blog Entries: 29 Rating: (0 votes - average) The New Orleans Saints finished with the 27th-ranked defense in 2016, which was actually an improvement from the previous two seasons. So, it stands to reason the Saints will look for defensive help in the draft in April, and one analyst Thursday said this is a good year to be in the market for defense. "This is a great defensive line draft; it's a great defensive draft overall," ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. said while answering a question about possible first-round options for the Dallas Cowboys. Just about every mock draft we will see over the next few months will have the Saints picking a defensive player. Kiper had the Saints using the 11th overall pick on former Alabama linebacker Reuben Foster in his mock draft published Thursday morning. read more from NOLA Attached Thumbnails
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Good news, Saints: ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. thinks this is a great defensive draft Originally Posted by foreverfan I'd make some kind of trade so I'd have 5 picks to draft the best defensive people in the first 2 rounds. I'm still beating the drum for trading Vaccarro.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Good news, Saints: ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. thinks this is a great defensive draft Originally Posted by jeanpierre Armstead is about the only player we could afford to lose right now and gain a pick in the first two rounds... And then you'd have Peat sliding to LT and signing two veteran guards, RG Kevin Zeiter and LG Andrew Norwell... The only two players that would get interest in the trade market for first or second round picks are Cooks and Jordan... This bullshinski talk of trading Cooks is asinine because Thomas-Cooks-Snead is as near a perfect complementary group you can have... With Cam, You'd have to get a first round pick for Cam Jordan and THEN take a DE-5T in the draft who plays with his veteran impact... Good possibility Tomsula shakes up the D line if hired.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Good news, Saints: ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr. thinks this is a great defensive draft Originally Posted by halloween 65 I'm still beating the drum for trading Vaccarro. And fill that spot with...?

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